Scotish independence

[David Guyatt]

You just try to insult Scottish nationalism by calling it tribal matters there's nothing tribal about it, its easy to sit on your throne and thown down insults about how tribal we are for wanting to run our own country when you run yours and 3 others, when you would never accept the position we are in, its civic nationalism we just want to be like any other country in the world and run our own affairs cause we think we would do a better job of it than you do and we would be better off too, if thats tirbal I'm John Cleese. You may have had a handful of 'celtic' party leaders in recent past big deal we have governments that are 95% English for the last 300 plus years, is that tribal? Are we tribal for not liking that? Do you think Canadians would want to be governed by Washington? Would they be tribal for opposing that?

You seem hell bent on being insulted don't you. As I explained I don't care a jot about it. For me it is tribalism of the most oblvious kind. If you find that insulting, be my guest.

There is a far bigger picture that your parochial attitude is seemingly blind to.

I sit in England knowing that my democratic vote is absolutely meaningless - a gimmick to make me and others feel they have a choice when they really don't. It's not a democracy Malcolm, but an "elective dictatorship", as Lord Hailsham once described it. Those who do vote (I refuse to, btw) have a couple of seconds in the Sun. Once there vote is in, the prime minister then assumes the powers of a dictator for five years.

Armed with this knowledge I don't set out to harangue Scots about their enforced bended knee to the English yoke for a measly 300 hundred years. Why would I? I'm under the same boot as you and they are.

Let's remember history and recall that Englishmen and women have suffered a thousand years of precisely the same fate, ever since the Norman Conquest. Prior to that it was the Roman yoke - with a brief interlude during the reign of Boadicea of the Icene tribe (a celt). The Romans never got up to Scotland proper did they.

And the fact is that these days we are all ruled by America. You in Scotland, we in England, those in Wales and NI. We are their subjects. We all do as the US president damn well says, and each prime minister since Harold Wilson has bent his knee to the incumbent of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Many more of them before Wilson too, dating back to WWII. Wilson at least tried to get some degree of independence.

So if anyone has a right to be angry at the unfairness of the world, it is the ordinary English, who have been relentlessly conquered and subjugated by foreign devils for over 2000 years.

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Did you know that the US planned to invade Canada in the late 1930's in order to gain control of her massive natural wealth?

PS. my family are Huguenots and were forced to flee France several hundred years ago by the Vatican. But I can't muster up any steam to get riled up about this. It's history. I do take the Vatican to task often, but not because of that, but because of their endless crookedness and corruption as a state player. I think you need to adopt a similar attitude. Even if you did get independence you'd still be governed by greedy crooks and still be under the thumb and lack any meaningful say in your affairs.

Choosing your own crook is, for me, an exercise in futility.