IPCC Issues New & Very Pessimistic/Apocalyptic Report

[Peter Lemkin]

Just to give a bit of balance to this discussion, here are some Corbett Report episodes about climate change/AGW/call it what you will:

http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282...c-exposed/

http://www.corbettreport.com/climate-myths-debunked/

http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-6...egate-3-0/

http://www.corbettreport.com/geoengineer...ge-threat/

http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-rep...egate-2-0/


To make it easier, here is a link to all the search results:

http://www.corbettreport.com/?s=climate&x=0&y=0


I am still on the fence where this issue is concerned. I haven't studied it enough detail. I have, however, listened to a few of those Corbett Report episodes, and they definitely gave me pause for thought. I am 100% behind the idea of protecting the environment; but if it doesn't start with the activities of governments and major corporations (the biggest polluters by far) then it's pretty clear what kind of agenda is at work, whether the science supports it or not.

For Deep Political issues I think James Corbett is one of the best, that said, he is not trained in the sciences [was an English major] and not good on Environmental change. It is a scientific topic and while I understand well why those who with good reason don't trust authorities that run the World, I don't understand the jump from that to include scientists, generally. There is a consensus among those scientists trained in the related fields. A few are paid to 'believe' otherwise [as was the case with tobacco and Monsanto and one can go on and on...]...a very few believe otherwise on their own....and most of them are highly religious, I find - and likely believe both the biblical tale that the Earth was created for 'man's use and abuse' and that their benevolent god wouldn't allow such a thing to happen. Whatever, the consensus is in and it gets worse and worse [the predictions and the timetable], as the junk humans are pouring into the environment increase and begin to take effect. If one knows the amounts of CO2, Methane, CFC's, other greenhouse gasses, chemicals, aerosols, pharmaceuticals, plastics, waste, junk of every kind and more chemicals unknown in nature are poured into water, air, soil by the hundreds of millions of tons/day to expect the system [Gaia] to NOT change is foolish - and change is what we see - dramatic change and matching exactly the time frame and amounts of these things dumped into the environment. This alone with the out of control increase in population, overuse of resources, deforestation, paving over the planet, bringing up and burning buried sources of Carbon, invention of unique exotic chemicals and even lifeforms - this is to any biological or environmental scientist the logical prescription for disaster - which is where we are headed. Those of you with children or grandchildren are not leaving them a secure World - in fact, quite the opposite. We have befouled our bed and home, and now are going to pay the price. Estimates are a minimum of 4 degrees C increase and maximum of 10 by the end of the Century. Humans nor most other species can handle what that will bring. Even a 2 degree [on average] increase will bring disaster almost unimaginable. Currently we have had slightly less than 1 degree, but that is increasing very quickly! It is not just climate change that is the problem. It is the entire blind view of humans to use anything they want, generate any byproducts and waste they want, and to be out of balance with Nature. On can, as we have, but not for long. We are headed for the same end [if for different reasons] as the dinosaurs - and not in a timeframe that is normal for species destruction. At the moment aprox. 250 species are going extinct EVERY DAY, with the rate increasing quickly. We have cut more than half of all forests and paved them over or planted single crops that do not turn CO2 into biomass the way trees do. We have taken away the habitat from most other species....and soon will our own. Humans are on that same list - and the ONLY cause of it. It is suicide and specicide on a grand scale. It is very sad. If some humans want to destroy the Planet and life on it because it makes them rich and powerful, they must be stopped. If others blindly follow because they don't understand the science and can't see beyond their TV and backyard, they must be made aware. We are totally out of balance with Nature. We are the unnatural species and have no right to destroy other living things; nor have we the right to kill those innocent young and yet unborn humans who will suffer horrible fates due to what we have done and are doing, continue to do. Most of the coral reefs are now dead. Most of the fish that humans have overused in the seas are gone or soon will be. The glaciers and icecaps are melting. The sea is both warming and becoming more acidic - as well as filled with poisons. Ditto water bodies on land. The air is poisoned as is the air and both are warming. Warm air has more energy and means more violent weather patterns - which is what we see. Chemicals are killing many species. Drugs are killing many species. Humans are getting more cancer and rare diseases. All is rapidly spinning out of control. Yet, the deniers who reject the consensus of scientists expect these same scientists will come up with some technological fix....well, don't hold your breath. The ONLY thing that will save the day, in part, is a completely new paradigm of our relationship with the Planet, with Nature and with how we live on Gaia - back to how the Native Americans and other Indigenous peoples understood they were part of the web of life and not apart from it. Our hubris has destroyed us and life on the Planet. We are on the abyss and must change immediately and with such a great degree of change it will shock most and be painful. There is no other choice. Climate change is ONLY ONE of many interrelated things humans have done and are doing to destroy the ecosystem on our only Planet - our and other species home! Most humans have no awareness of the balance of Nature - nor its necessity. Environmental scientists and others do. Fail to heed the warnings at the species' [ours and all others] peril. It is that bad - and that 'late'. It is now known that most civilizations of the past collapsed due to environmental degradation - but that was in a limited area - now we are 'globalized' and our changes 'globalized', as well. We will soon go the way of the Easter Islanders, the Inca, and so many other civilizations. The Sahara was once forested and lush. Humans caused it to become desert. Ditto Mesopotamia. Time to wake up and deal with the hard realities or die, as a species. The other species already are.......