01-01-2014, 07:21 PM
(Note: those block of text posts are kinda hard to read y'all... couple "carriage returns" along the way makes for much easier reading... just a thought)
R.K. While it would make some sense I do not get the impression he was... he was much higher placed on the food chain than that imo...
Do you have anything to point to in suggesting this, or just gut feel? I'll make my complete point below....
Hi Albert... no one is saying the CIA were not the main Facilitators, with a capital "F". But to say they SPONSORED it is to not understand the model.
To believe that Dulles and the CIA (and JFK for that matter) were not part of something much larger is to ignore history..
I posted elsewhere about the connections of Bell Helicopter, Textron, Sun Life of Montreal, Sun Alliance Insurance of London, Prudential, JP Morgan, American Associates and the Bank of Boston...
How the partners of "Cravath, Swaine and Moore" and "Choate, Hall and Stewart" and Arthur Little ARE representative of the SPONSORS and represent SPONSORS legally and politically...
George William Miller and John McCloy... both from Cravath and both instrumental in the suppression of the German reindustrialization to the advantage of BRITISH companies
(Textron's initial goal was to destabilize the textile industry of the North East... and reinstate the textile strength of UK in the process... Rothschild/Astor/Morgan
American Research and Development Corp founded by Sun Life Assurance of London thru Paul Clark, Oscar Haussmann, Lessing Rosenwalt.
Alistair Campbell of Sun Life of Canada
The PERMINDEX group in Canada
Roswell Gilpatrick - the #2 man under McNamara - a partner at Cravath...
Prouty's JFK/Vietnam book barely touches the subject when he explains how the CIA is approached to aid in the decision for TEXTRON to buy Bell in July 1960...
When a handful of these Bell helicopters are moved from Laos to Vietnam - via the work of General Caball of the CIA, the flood gates open...
Bell at the time was a poorly run, $100 million in debt albatross... Prudential Life loans TEXTRON the money to buy BELL with a 6-years grace period on repayment... a LIFE INSURANCE company usually does not make such risky loans... unless they know something...
While Bell sales increase slightly thru 1963... you know what happens beginning Nov 24th... Prouty calls the helicopter strategy one of the main reasons for over 50% of the deaths and for the poor performance in battle... it was the wrong tool for the job, yet $100's of billions are spent...
My point about the SPONSORS is that they make the best of a situation, all situations - some they create themselves, some follow natural courses once the ball starts rolling down hill...
JFK became something even the SPONSORS could not, or would not work around....
JFK was a casualty of a COLD WAR run by and owned by SPONSORS... the CIA, US Military, Global corporations (TEXTRON was considered the first international conglomerate) and the worlds financial institutions are the tools of the trade and can be pointed to and fired at anyone or any country threatening that rule.
IMO - Bundy was part of the inner circle... A republican Boston-ite who joined the CFR in 1949, played a key role in the set-up and cover-up and goes on to be Pres of the FORD foundation and then teach history at NYU. He worked the SPONSOR agenda from the inside... and was awarded the Pres Medal of Freedom by LBJ on LBJ's last day in office. FREEDOM! no less.
The alphabet agencies will always be the first line of cover and defense for the SPONSOR... they TAKE orders and implement them... Giving order requires a much higher clearance
DJ
Quote:As far as Bundy is concerned, IMHO, he was CIA who's cover was National Security Adviser to the President
R.K. While it would make some sense I do not get the impression he was... he was much higher placed on the food chain than that imo...
Do you have anything to point to in suggesting this, or just gut feel? I'll make my complete point below....
Quote:I find it equally frustrating that researchers make such broad statements but then don't back it with anything like naming who, then, was responsible.
Hi Albert... no one is saying the CIA were not the main Facilitators, with a capital "F". But to say they SPONSORED it is to not understand the model.
To believe that Dulles and the CIA (and JFK for that matter) were not part of something much larger is to ignore history..
I posted elsewhere about the connections of Bell Helicopter, Textron, Sun Life of Montreal, Sun Alliance Insurance of London, Prudential, JP Morgan, American Associates and the Bank of Boston...
How the partners of "Cravath, Swaine and Moore" and "Choate, Hall and Stewart" and Arthur Little ARE representative of the SPONSORS and represent SPONSORS legally and politically...
George William Miller and John McCloy... both from Cravath and both instrumental in the suppression of the German reindustrialization to the advantage of BRITISH companies
(Textron's initial goal was to destabilize the textile industry of the North East... and reinstate the textile strength of UK in the process... Rothschild/Astor/Morgan
American Research and Development Corp founded by Sun Life Assurance of London thru Paul Clark, Oscar Haussmann, Lessing Rosenwalt.
Alistair Campbell of Sun Life of Canada
The PERMINDEX group in Canada
Roswell Gilpatrick - the #2 man under McNamara - a partner at Cravath...
Prouty's JFK/Vietnam book barely touches the subject when he explains how the CIA is approached to aid in the decision for TEXTRON to buy Bell in July 1960...
When a handful of these Bell helicopters are moved from Laos to Vietnam - via the work of General Caball of the CIA, the flood gates open...
Bell at the time was a poorly run, $100 million in debt albatross... Prudential Life loans TEXTRON the money to buy BELL with a 6-years grace period on repayment... a LIFE INSURANCE company usually does not make such risky loans... unless they know something...
While Bell sales increase slightly thru 1963... you know what happens beginning Nov 24th... Prouty calls the helicopter strategy one of the main reasons for over 50% of the deaths and for the poor performance in battle... it was the wrong tool for the job, yet $100's of billions are spent...
My point about the SPONSORS is that they make the best of a situation, all situations - some they create themselves, some follow natural courses once the ball starts rolling down hill...
JFK became something even the SPONSORS could not, or would not work around....
JFK was a casualty of a COLD WAR run by and owned by SPONSORS... the CIA, US Military, Global corporations (TEXTRON was considered the first international conglomerate) and the worlds financial institutions are the tools of the trade and can be pointed to and fired at anyone or any country threatening that rule.
IMO - Bundy was part of the inner circle... A republican Boston-ite who joined the CFR in 1949, played a key role in the set-up and cover-up and goes on to be Pres of the FORD foundation and then teach history at NYU. He worked the SPONSOR agenda from the inside... and was awarded the Pres Medal of Freedom by LBJ on LBJ's last day in office. FREEDOM! no less.
The alphabet agencies will always be the first line of cover and defense for the SPONSOR... they TAKE orders and implement them... Giving order requires a much higher clearance
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter