07-08-2013, 08:51 PM
[quote=Lauren Johnson][QUOTE]
That's not LIHOP. You seem to be backing away from that position as well in your use of the passive voice. "There was intel" -- that's all? Either someone with command authority like the SecDef says don't do anything or you don't have LIHOP.
And this is why I think you are doing the rope-a-dope on this. To say some authorities decided to Let It Happen On Purpose, is to say it was something akin to an inside job. So you back off and make things vague.
So do you adopt a LIHOP position or have come up with another position?[/QUOTE]
The secdef is not in on all the workings / operations of the thousands of people lower down in the chain of command. One would think that some things need to be sent up to the top... but it's also conceivable that someone blocked the info flow because of their own agenda. And this is also how plausible deniability works... They DON'T want to be connected to the decisions in many cases and the people lower down simply act as expected in many cases. Or in some take advanstage of their position to do or not do something.
Neocons were in lots of key positions inside the defense establishment and they seemed to be pushing their own agenda... and I assume would abuse their power and positions if the opportunity presented. If Rowley and Edmonds etc. are to believed intel was working with and knew more about what was going down than they are letting on. The 8/6 PDB indicates that there was some sort of awareness that something was up.. insider plot or terrorist... the gov did essentially nothing and perhaps agents assumed at the time that the information was being sent along and measures were being taken. Who knows?
I don't know... I can only guess and it seems more likely to be a LIHOP with lots of bungling and so forth which needed to be covered up... not to mention the surprize when the impenetrable towers fell down.
That's not LIHOP. You seem to be backing away from that position as well in your use of the passive voice. "There was intel" -- that's all? Either someone with command authority like the SecDef says don't do anything or you don't have LIHOP.
And this is why I think you are doing the rope-a-dope on this. To say some authorities decided to Let It Happen On Purpose, is to say it was something akin to an inside job. So you back off and make things vague.
So do you adopt a LIHOP position or have come up with another position?[/QUOTE]
The secdef is not in on all the workings / operations of the thousands of people lower down in the chain of command. One would think that some things need to be sent up to the top... but it's also conceivable that someone blocked the info flow because of their own agenda. And this is also how plausible deniability works... They DON'T want to be connected to the decisions in many cases and the people lower down simply act as expected in many cases. Or in some take advanstage of their position to do or not do something.
Neocons were in lots of key positions inside the defense establishment and they seemed to be pushing their own agenda... and I assume would abuse their power and positions if the opportunity presented. If Rowley and Edmonds etc. are to believed intel was working with and knew more about what was going down than they are letting on. The 8/6 PDB indicates that there was some sort of awareness that something was up.. insider plot or terrorist... the gov did essentially nothing and perhaps agents assumed at the time that the information was being sent along and measures were being taken. Who knows?
I don't know... I can only guess and it seems more likely to be a LIHOP with lots of bungling and so forth which needed to be covered up... not to mention the surprize when the impenetrable towers fell down.