Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver

[Lauren Johnson]

Keith: you can get the man out of the Marines, but you can't get Marines out of the man.

Yes,I think that statement rings very true Lauren.Well,not the Marine part though,I was Army.But as much as I am an anti-war person now,right after 9/11 and the US was attacked,all of that military mindset came back.I even considered joining one of the Oregon militias that had a resurgence of activity then.

I think what it all comes down to is that we took an oath of honor to defend the country and the constitution.I can't speak for all veterans but my honor is of the upmost importance.This does not mean that I don't falter at times but,I will always try to keep my honor.It might,in fact even be the only thing that keeps me from just crumbling........

Keith, I sense that you did not take offense at my comment. And none was meant. What I do take offense at, not from you, is how the oaths to defend the country and the constitution are manipulated to devious ends. The smart ones figure it out, and then have to live with the consequences, sometimes terrible consequences, of what they have been a part of. But then that is true of me, and I was not in the military. I feel lied to and taken advantage of and only in the last 15 years am I coming to figure it out.