23-11-2012, 10:49 PM
Charles Drago Wrote:David Josephs Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Many, at all levels of the conspiracy, with motives both shared and all their own.
But if we can identify the Sponsors' motive(s), we can effect justice.
I dont see how that follow Charles....
The motives are pretty easily understandable.... how does knowledge of motive help us effect justice when JUSTICE is something that, well...
which JUSTICE are you referring to CD? and how exactly do you see JUSTICE being served in this case?
David,
As I wrote and published many years ago in my essay, "In the Blossom of Our Sins" (posted in full elsewhere on DPF):
WHY DO WE DECLINE TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND FAIL TO EFFECT JUSTICE?
Know that I define justice in the case of the assassination of President Kennedy as the utilization of the attainable absolute truth to cleanse or, if necessary, literally deconstruct and rebuild the corrupted system responsible for the assassination and related crimes.
We must accept the notion that, at this late date, justice will not be served by sending anyone to prison. Indeed, I herein restate my original call for the extension of a broad and legally binding immunity to all surviving conspirators, contingent upon their coming forward and telling the truth (the offer to be made by an independent special prosecutor as appointed by the Congress of the United States; for reasons having nothing to do with the moral standing of that body, and in full recognition of the fact that I am asking the criminal system to investigate and indict itself, there yet can be no meaningful healing of America's most grievous self-inflicted wound that is not self-administered).
Justice will come about only as a function of the revealed truth. And that truth is at once our last remaining weapon, our most powerful weapon, and the weapon we seem least willing to wield in the war in which we are engaged.
Why do we hesitate? When in the words of Vincent Salandria, one of the first Warren Commission critics, the truth has been "blatantly obvious … all the time." Why?
David Josephs Wrote:From my POV the very system itself has INJUSTICE built-in as "people" run the system and "people" are the very root of the injustice based on each's conception of entitlement, natural domination, and outright greed.
I'm not endeavoring to change human nature -- only to better the human condition temporarily.
David Josephs Wrote:So we know that the CFR clan were the sponsors... all the way back to the finance and intelligence halls of EURASIA their motive remains the same as always... manipulate world political and economic forces to gain the greatest benefit in terms of power, ownership and profit.
I "know" no such thing.
David Josephs Wrote:http://www.thevenusproject.com/ while this remains at the extreme edge of optimism... it is a step into a different paradigm....
Very promising. I look forward to searching the website in detail.
I read with great interest the following paragraph from the website: "The film details the need to outgrow the dated and inefficient methods of politics, law, business, or any other 'establishment' notions of human affairs, and use the methods of science, combined with high technology, to provide for the needs of all the world's people. It is not based on the opinions of the political and financial elite or on illusionary so-called democracies, but on maintaining a dynamic equilibrium with the planet that could ultimately provide abundance for all people."
The exclusive reliance upon "the methods of science, combined with high technology, to provide for the needs of all the world's people" is, for me, disturbing insofar as it seems to acknowledge material needs only. What of the manner in which non-scientific disciplines address non-material human needs -- disciplines such as philosophy and the fine and performing arts, and needs such as spiritual focus and uplift?
David Josephs Wrote:what JUSTICE did you have in mind CD?
Restorative and distributive.
Interesting CD
Also extreme optimism… the future CFR generation's ongoing control and influence of said systemprecludes any one crack from bringing down the system. Democracy is only slow to change for thoseoutside this system… for those within and pulling strings it's simply a matterof which way the wind blows and adjusting sails.
That you do not "know" the CFR and roots before it,extending to the Banking Control of the Rothschilds are the Sponsors ofALL is a matter of semantics?. I'm sincerely surprised at thatcomment of yours CD… maybe you only "suspect"without specific knowledge…. Maybe theysimply take advantage of global events AFTER they occur and are not primemovers in when/how/why they occur… toome that is KNOWing that only those that qualify as SPONSOR can behave as such.
I'm glad you're open for Venus project… extreme optimism requires, like great art, a littlefaith that people will get it eventually. The youtube move zeitgeist…. Also worth seeing in CONTEXT and in thesame vein. I stumbled across it when researching the History of Money (XAT) and the whys behind central banking.... Understanding the world in the context of "money makes the world go round" as an AXIOM... I believe we better understand why we are where we are.
Would you agree that once the emotional and security andmaterial needs of a people are satisfied, the products of the mind can flourishwithout sacrifice? Today you are eithera starving artist, a commercial artist or a genius artist…. Art for art's sake shouldn't be sacrifice but a right of passage… we agree…
Which requires a refocus on how and what children are taughtand why…. Remove WANT from the equation…. Now, contribute to your own overall healthand the health of the community… take care of the old, the young and the environment.... make war as unprofitable as possible.
Kinda simple really.... :-)
DJ

