06-10-2012, 03:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-10-2012, 03:57 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Charles Drago Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:The attack on America was an attack by a group of Americans for the purpose of control of America.
We agree on so much, Peter, but not on this. In my view, the 9-11 operation, like the Dallas assassination, was sponsored by supra-national interests whose goals continue to transcend control of any one nation. Thus I bristle at use of "inside job" when used to describe the 9-11 conspiracy insofar as the term implies sponsorship by factions within the U.S. "government."
Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, the CIA, high ranking military officers, etc. are, for me, False Sponsors and true Facilitators. That they may believe themselves to be Sponsors does not change this assessment.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Another silent/secret coup of sorts, as was Dallas.
I think we're on the same page here.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:I believe similar forces and motives were behind both.
And here.
Charles, while I think that most of the numbers and impetus were from US citizens [if disloyal and treasonous ones], I would NOT discount persons and forces outside of the US being involved, as well. Clearly there were small and medium bit players from Saudi, Israel, Pakistan, the UK and other countries and no doubt very powerful and not very visible persons and groupings from many countries or persons and groupings that recognize no authority of countries [only their own power and brute force] likely participated. That said, I still think the main plan was 'made in the USA'. however, I would not be shocked, horrified nor embarrassed for it to be proven otherwise....If you are correct, then the 'cancer' has really spread throughout the Planet and will need a Planet-wide response to remove it [as opposed to many local responses]. I would, however, agree with you that many of the biggest players were not in the government....they are the puppeteers who pull the strings of the 'government[s]' for their own purposes and pleasure....only those lower down had some positions in the government or its agencies and departments....though, even those in 'government' who participated did not have their true loyalty to the US in any manner - theoretically, constitutionally, legally, morally, nor in fact - IMO. Quite the opposite, whoever were the instigators and top levels had only their own interests in mind [Dallas and 911 - as well as other incidents in between - ditto before and after we could both, I'm sure, agree upon, as well]
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"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass

