03-02-2012, 12:47 AM
Wow, Greg. You have made the biggest concession to me of anybody on this site. You said: maybe Lovelady, maybe Oswald. Perhaps. But, you have gone WAY TOO FAR in claiming ABSOLUTELY that it is Oswald.
For this room, that was about as much endorsement as I could ever hope to get- except from Jim, of course. So thanks for being open-minded enough to say that. It is greatly appreciated.
But for me, I really do have no doubt, none whatsoever, that it is Oswald standing by the column, and it cannot possibly be Lovelady. The Doorman is wearing Oswald's clothes. And they were very distinctive clothes: the loose-fitting outer shirt, unbuttoned, over the v-necked t-shirt, with the distinctive right collar, which matches perfectly on both of them, while Lovelady's right collar is very different. His collar lies and folds over differently from Oswald's and Doorman's. Lovelady's right collar has a lot of pattern and contrast, whereas on Doorman and Oswald, the collars are plain and uniform. And what about the shirts are a match between Lovelady and Doorman? Just the pattern, supposedly, but the problem is that it doesn't match well. It doesn't match at all really. All you can say about both is that they are both "varied". They both do have contrast but it is not the same contrast.
And regarding their builds, look at this picture and compare their arms. Lovelady was a beefy, brawny guy with a thick arm, whereas you can easily see that Doorman's arm was much thinner. Doorman was a thin, scrawny guy- like Oswald.
You'll also notice that Lovelady is wearing a round t-shirt, in contrast to the v-neck on Doorman. In every picture we have of Lovelady, he wears a round-neck t-shirt. Even the times he dressed up as Doorman to play the role for the camera, he wore round-neck t-shirts. It didn't even occur to him to get a v-neck. He was just a round-neck kind of guy.
But, that v-notch in Doorman's t-shirt is real; it was not caused by shade; and it matched Oswald.
Greg, if Doorman were Lovelady, these contradictions would not exist. However, I realize that there are also contradictions relating to Oswald. I realize that there are "talking points" that lean towards Lovelady. There had to be for this to endure for 48 years.
But, one thing we know for sure is that Doorman was not an amalgam of Oswald and Lovelady. The things that pertain to one or the other had to have been faked. I maintain that there is no chance on God's green Earth that the likenesses to Oswald were put in to exonerate him. That means that the likenesses to Lovelady had to have been faked.
And the actual fact is that the likenesses to Oswald could NOT have been faked. The form and lay of that shirt over the v-neck t-shirt are elements that are too big for them to have altered. But adding some lines and pattern to a shirt? Yeah, they could have done that. Doctored up the hairline? Yes, they could have done that. And even the face they could have changed. But, that outer shirt over the t-shirt is the biggest element of the picture, and it matches Oswald.
Some have tried to claim that Oswald changed his shirt. But he did not, and even the Warren Commission admitted it. Based on the testimony of Mrs. Bledsoe, his landlady, and the fact that the bus transfer was found in Oswald's pocket, the Warren Commission concluded that "the evidence indicates that Oswald continued wearing the same shirt he was wearing all morning and which he was still wearing when arrested." That is from the Warren Report.
I guarantee you that he was wearing that shirt when he stood outside the building during the shooting and got captured on celluloid by Ike Altgens.
For this room, that was about as much endorsement as I could ever hope to get- except from Jim, of course. So thanks for being open-minded enough to say that. It is greatly appreciated.
But for me, I really do have no doubt, none whatsoever, that it is Oswald standing by the column, and it cannot possibly be Lovelady. The Doorman is wearing Oswald's clothes. And they were very distinctive clothes: the loose-fitting outer shirt, unbuttoned, over the v-necked t-shirt, with the distinctive right collar, which matches perfectly on both of them, while Lovelady's right collar is very different. His collar lies and folds over differently from Oswald's and Doorman's. Lovelady's right collar has a lot of pattern and contrast, whereas on Doorman and Oswald, the collars are plain and uniform. And what about the shirts are a match between Lovelady and Doorman? Just the pattern, supposedly, but the problem is that it doesn't match well. It doesn't match at all really. All you can say about both is that they are both "varied". They both do have contrast but it is not the same contrast.
And regarding their builds, look at this picture and compare their arms. Lovelady was a beefy, brawny guy with a thick arm, whereas you can easily see that Doorman's arm was much thinner. Doorman was a thin, scrawny guy- like Oswald.
You'll also notice that Lovelady is wearing a round t-shirt, in contrast to the v-neck on Doorman. In every picture we have of Lovelady, he wears a round-neck t-shirt. Even the times he dressed up as Doorman to play the role for the camera, he wore round-neck t-shirts. It didn't even occur to him to get a v-neck. He was just a round-neck kind of guy.
But, that v-notch in Doorman's t-shirt is real; it was not caused by shade; and it matched Oswald.
Greg, if Doorman were Lovelady, these contradictions would not exist. However, I realize that there are also contradictions relating to Oswald. I realize that there are "talking points" that lean towards Lovelady. There had to be for this to endure for 48 years.
But, one thing we know for sure is that Doorman was not an amalgam of Oswald and Lovelady. The things that pertain to one or the other had to have been faked. I maintain that there is no chance on God's green Earth that the likenesses to Oswald were put in to exonerate him. That means that the likenesses to Lovelady had to have been faked.
And the actual fact is that the likenesses to Oswald could NOT have been faked. The form and lay of that shirt over the v-neck t-shirt are elements that are too big for them to have altered. But adding some lines and pattern to a shirt? Yeah, they could have done that. Doctored up the hairline? Yes, they could have done that. And even the face they could have changed. But, that outer shirt over the t-shirt is the biggest element of the picture, and it matches Oswald.
Some have tried to claim that Oswald changed his shirt. But he did not, and even the Warren Commission admitted it. Based on the testimony of Mrs. Bledsoe, his landlady, and the fact that the bus transfer was found in Oswald's pocket, the Warren Commission concluded that "the evidence indicates that Oswald continued wearing the same shirt he was wearing all morning and which he was still wearing when arrested." That is from the Warren Report.
I guarantee you that he was wearing that shirt when he stood outside the building during the shooting and got captured on celluloid by Ike Altgens.