Libya : A no lie zone

[Albert Doyle]

BK: If they were so closely supplied US/CIA assets then why did we kill them?

Well, that's exactly the point I'm making. We killed them because they detected America had a corrupted CIA government. Once these people get familiar with CIA-type government they gain contempt for it and try to emulate it. The US then turns on these people when they act in their own interests. There is a long list in history of the US doing this to foreign leaders who worked with them. And the CIA is usually the one that delivers the blow. HSCA sensed this and acted upon it.

The invasion of Iraq was a crime, but I don't remember installing democracy as being a justification, only mythical WMD.

So what's your point? The Middle East is now a CIA/Mossad free for all because the US doesn't have to worry about driving arabs to the Soviets like Kennedy did.

BK: The CIA isn't a monolithic organization, it's full of just ordinary Americans, as Angleton said, "A house has many rooms," and if you blame everything on the CIA and think the CIA is one big monster, you are being ideological in your view of them. JFK said, "If peaceful revolution is prevented then violent revolution is inevitable," and there is no way that he would back the dictators of Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Iran, Bahrain, Yemen and Syira against the uprising of their people. If he had the choice, the choice between good and evil in Libya would have been easy, and he would not have supported Gadhafi. Democracy in the USA, via the two party system, is a sham, I have not participated since 1968, and you are not in a position to tell me what I should pay attention to.

That's just excuse-making. CIA is responsible for what happens under its roof. It's part of their strategy of plausible deniability to say there are rogue members who can't be held to account. Again, I fail to see what point you are making? If you haven't participated in American Democracy then CIA and its evils are certainly the worst embodiment of what you are defying. So you are resisting them and endorsing them at the same time.

BK: The CIA is a scapegoat in the murder of JFK, as I believe the evidence indicates it was done by the US military intelligence, and JFK and RFK were no lambs.

You're not serious? Read 'JFK And The Unspeakable'. JFK was most certainly a lamb whose throat was ripped-out by treasonous CIA wolves. Your comment is practically an endorsement of that.

"Death to Tyrants" was the battle cry when the US marines went to Tripoli in 1804 and it is the battle cry of the new Arab revolution. As for WMD, I do pay attention to it here rather than having my attention drawn overseas.....

The list is much much longer than that. The only problem with Teddy Roosevelt-era propaganda is that we are now the tyrants shooting cruise missiles at defenseless dusty arab countries while a cowardly Congress sits and watches a rogue military it is no longer in control of. All this being done in defense of a nation that is basically a CIA police state with a rogue military-ruled government in contempt of its own people, Constitution, and democracy. Forget international law - that's "irrelevant".

BK: Joseph Kony is a mass rapist and mass murder who should be tracked down and executed.

You're not answering the question. How many JFK's does one Joseph Kony buy? We killed one Hitler and got one CIA in return (and therefore a weaker democracy). Get the point?

BK: The CIA isn't the problem, they are just an arm of the federal government and if cut off another arm will spring up. I'm not defending them, I'm just saying they're not the Boogie Man you are making them out to be.

Mmm hhh. If you ignore the fact they murdered president Kennedy and their current effect on American democracy - I guess.

BK: How is Libya an illegal CIA war? The CIA had nothing to do with it,

I believe that as much as I believe Oswald was a lone nut and the WMD were bad intel. These arab "revolutions" are phase II in the War On Terror designed to destabilize arab power in their own countries in CIA's main area of concern in the world. If you think they're not involved you're naive or deliberately in denial.

There's another country in the world where the citizens are in the streets trying to change the government. Think of which country that is and what CIA's role will be in that democratic movement.

BK: What the CIA does has no affect on democracy in the USA or anywhere.

HA HA HA! Kennedy might differ. I think you don't detect the rich irony in what you say...