Salandria-Schotz-Douglass material

[Vasilios Vazakas]

Thank you, Vasilios, for what to me is a well-reasoned response/argument. I'll comment now on specific elements of your work.

[W]e can say that at the facilitators level we have: Allen Dulles, James Jesus Angleton, Curtis LeMay and others from the Pentagon, C.D. Jackson, Henry and Clare Luce, LBJ possibly during the cover up, Helms, Phillips E.H Hunt and Lucien Conein and the Paines. I am not convinced that Lansdale and Wlliam Harvey were involved in it.

General agreement here. But please keep in mind that the Facilitator level is A) sub-divided, and B) the fertile ground from which False Sponsors are harvested.

As for Lansdale and Harvey, for me the jury remains out. If forced to make a decision, I'd vote for inclusion at the Facilitator level. But don't forget, then as now, American intelligence agencies were factionalized along ideological lines. These people were quite capable of eating their own, and EGL and WKH were ideally suited to be cast in melodramatic Facilitator roles.
Lansdale was a Kennedy favourite, their personal choice to lead Mongoose and their personal choice to be appointed Ambassador to Vietnam. Initially Lansdale was against the Vietnam war and he was in conflict with Maxwell Taylor and LeMay. I wonder if a false implication in the Dealey Plaza events was a way to force him to change attitude.
William Harvey hated the Kennedys but he was out of the scene in Rome. He definitely met with Rosselli under the QJWIN, ZRRIFLE operation in an effort to assassinate Castro and Helms knew. Angleton learned of his meetings with Rosselli so it would have been easy to blame him since the Mexico charade with Kostikov would have indicated a ZRRIFLE operation to blame it on the Russians and also lead to Corsicans. Harvey was never a member of the elite and he disliked the Yale types.
I have not mentioned Morales just because Lamar Waldron names him as his major suspect and this and only this makes me wonder.

The Lansky syndicate and Ruby were responsible for killing Oswald either because they were part of the plot or because they wanted to silence him regarding anti-Castro assassination plots.

Or Ruby was sent in by Facilitators unrelated to Lansky so as to implicate Lansky in particular and OC in general as False Sponsors.

A lot of researchers accuse Rosselli. If we accept this he will lead us back to the Lansky syndicate. Lansky is also connected to the Far east and Vietnam due to his involvement in the drug triangle, his laundering banks in Miami and the Bahamas and their connections to Paul Helliwell. We also have Ruby's meetings and phone calls with McWillie and Al Gruber.[/FONT]


Be careful here. Hunt clearly has had bestowed upon him Sponsor status. I'm not ready either to absolve or indict him for such a role. But Braden, Myers, and other you reference never have been identified as Sponsors.
My mistake. Braden, Myers and Ruby have been named as part of the facilitator/mechanics model. It seems stupid for all these people to be involved in the assassination, meet the night before at the Cabana hotel, having Ruby and Braden visit Hunt offices, Braden to be arrested at the crime scene and then implicate H.L.Hunt. It seems too simple too easy too gullible.

The best books regarding the true sponsors are Donald Gibson's "Battling Wall Street and The Kennedy assassination cover-up".

Perhaps. I'd refer you to The Secret History of the CIA, in which Joseph Trento inadvertantly (my interpretation) provides evidence for supra-national alliances among ostensibly opposing intelligence agencies and officers. While this goes directly to the Facilitator level, it helps sharpen our focus as we grind our way through possible Sponsors. So too does Trento's investigation of John Paisley in Widows direct our attention to these supra-national forces.
I ll buy the book in the future.[/FONT]

When we are talking about supra-national sponsors my mind would go to people like the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Oppenheimers etc., but it will be a guess no concrete evidence to back it up.

Try Thy Will Be Done: Nelson Rockefeller, Evangelism, And the Conquest of the Amazon in the Age of Oil by Gerard Colby with Charlotte Dennet. It will provide great insight into the Rockefeller caste.

I am sure the Rockefeller interests in Latin American were similar to their interests in South East Asia regarding oil, minerals and other resources.