23-07-2011, 06:38 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:William Kelly Wrote:Well, he is entirely wrong for blaming people like he does, linking people to the assassination rather than following the evidence to where it leads, he does it backwards, and like those who do the same thing with the Mafia, they are all wrong.
I too have read Piper's books and talked with him on the phone about it and hung out with his American Free Press pals at the Italian/Tai joint on Capitol Hill in DC, and while I like talking with them, they wear blinders, just like our new friend Mr. Phelps, and apparently everyone who reads and believes Piper's book on the assassination.
You see this is where I have problems with this. This is too overly-general compared to what Piper actually writes, which is much more specific and backed by documented fact than these criticisms allow.
I think people are trying to ignore the fact the same Mossad/Israel that attacked and killed US sailors on a US Navy ship is the same one that was probably involved in JFK's assassination 4 short years earlier. I think people should pay attention to the process of false flag attack and how CIA was involved in the case of the USS Liberty. I have no doubt the murderous underground CIA/Mossad cabal Piper points-out was directly responsible for the attack on the Liberty and tried to create a false flag attack as a pretext for US involvement in the 1967 War. When you transpose this onto the Kennedy Assassination it becomes disturbingly meaningful, especially when you give credence to Mediterranean underground Piper illustrates (which no one seems to do). No, I see a disconnect here between the normal level of scrutiny applied to any other instance of conspiracy evidence and this occurrence.
The reason I don't see Piper as being guilty of undermining the real conspiracy is because he points-out an important aspect that would otherwise be ignored. Sure people incorrectly accuse Johnson of being the mastermind - or the mafia, however we don't dismiss their actual involvement as much as we do the Israelis. There's a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater in this regard, in my opinion.
I'm wondering how the Israelis could be called "peripheral" when Angleton was the liaison to Israel and even helped train and form Mossad during his OSS years? When Angleton was critical to smuggling nuclear plans and material to Damona behind JFK's back? When the US syndicate's treasurers were all established to be ardent zionist jews helping fund the Tibor Rosenbaum CIA illegal bank network and its accompanying politics? When Clay Shaw was a key member through Permindex? "Peripheral"??? No, what Piper does is put sense and context to the "mafia" involvement to show it was coordinated and controlled by higher CIA powers through this network. He does such a good job that when you say "mafia" in relation to the assassination conspiracy you are saying "Mediterranean CIA cabal".
Just because Milchan funded the movie 'JFK' and encouraged ARRB doesn't mean he wasn't active Mossad or didn't represent a prime example of the cabal. You could just as easily say, under the same logic, that Johnson wasn't involved in the conspiracy because he helped form the Warren Commission and even later said he didn't believe its conclusions. 'JFK' singles out the military and CIA as suspects. What doesn't it single out?
No, I don't think the people quickly dismissing Piper have proven their case, especially when you involve the lengthy evidence Piper details.
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I am not overly general, in fact Piper sent me a copy of his book and then called me after I read it, and I told him some Jewish/Isralie connections he didn't even know and used in later editions - ie. Alex Ziger, Oswald's closest friend in Minsk was Jewish and had worked for an American company in Argentina before moving to USSR. Piper does not evaluate the entire story, but like those who blame the Mafia or any other suspect, he only presents the evidence that supports his theory, which is wrong. It's the wrong approach and the wrong conclusion.
BK

