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The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis
To me the question comes down to whether the sniper rifles were left out on the bed deliberately or not. I'd like to say there's a noticeable difference in the protection of the shooters between Chicago and Dallas where the Dallas operation was run much more tightly - making it more likely Chicago was a false plan. However it appears the Dallas plot was also run pretty loosely with rifles seen all over and men seen in windows. What this comes down to is Dallas having a much more receptive right-wing police department.

What strikes me the most from Black's article is how Thomas Arthur Vallee didn't seem to be that tight an operator when interviewed in Houston. What jumps out at me there is if Vallee was a deep operator he never would have made such a foolish mistake as allowing Black to walk in and interview him. This makes it MUCH more likely Vallee was being set-up as a patsy and manipulated at a deep level. This is very important towards the Dallas plot because it has direct affect on Lee Harvey Oswald and his status. The fact Vallee is so obviously manipulatable by authorities and willing to participate in the covert activities Black suggested tells you a lot. It tells you he was used and was a sought-out and willing patsy like Oswald.

It's interesting to see that in 1975 Black hadn't fully developed that Groth and Shurla were CIA liaison Chicago police officers deliberately put on the case.

I'm going to venture Chicago was a real plot with Dallas as a back-up. Charles makes the mistake of calling people to consider the multi-faceted dimensions and complexity of CIA plots but then not considering himself that Chicago could have been a contingent plan and real just in case Oswald got caught. Hedging their bets in advance so to speak. What Charles fails to consider is that the Chicago plot could have been both a real and faked plot at the same time. Those men think like gods, don't make the mistake of failing to realize they act like them too.

Kennedy had to be aware of Chicago because he canceled his trip because of it. What is most outstanding about this is Black cracked this thing wide open in 1975. What that tells you is these men have such pervasive evil control of America that you can crack their plots in public and it makes no difference. The litmus test of democracy in this country has come up like Oswald's paraffin test - negative.
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The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 12:15 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 01-02-2011, 01:20 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 01-02-2011, 02:00 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 03:30 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 03:32 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 01-02-2011, 08:30 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 01-02-2011, 09:38 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 10:31 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 10:48 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 01-02-2011, 03:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 04:24 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 01-02-2011, 04:55 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 05:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by John Kowalski - 01-02-2011, 06:10 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 06:15 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 01-02-2011, 06:38 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jack White - 01-02-2011, 06:48 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 07:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-02-2011, 04:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 06:54 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-02-2011, 07:58 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 08:10 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 11:04 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Keith Millea - 02-02-2011, 11:18 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 11:31 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 03-02-2011, 02:57 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 03-02-2011, 03:23 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 03-02-2011, 06:28 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-02-2011, 07:11 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 07:25 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 03-02-2011, 07:29 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 03-02-2011, 09:12 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 02:57 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 03:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 03:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 03:06 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 03:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 03:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 03:20 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by John Kowalski - 03-02-2011, 04:12 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 04:15 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-02-2011, 05:04 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-02-2011, 05:33 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 10:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 10:34 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jack White - 04-02-2011, 12:10 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 04-02-2011, 12:44 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 04-02-2011, 01:27 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jack White - 04-02-2011, 02:51 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Cliff Varnell - 04-02-2011, 03:00 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:31 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:32 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:36 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:38 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 04-02-2011, 05:50 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 04-02-2011, 07:03 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 01:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 04-02-2011, 01:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 04-02-2011, 01:53 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 04-02-2011, 02:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 03:51 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 04:47 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 05-02-2011, 04:52 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 05-02-2011, 05:27 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 05:30 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 07:33 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 05-02-2011, 08:47 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 12:23 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 12:27 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 04:21 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 04:31 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 05:26 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 05:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 05:41 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 05:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 06:01 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 06:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 06:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 06:32 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 06:50 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 05-02-2011, 07:08 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 07:16 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 09:38 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 10:15 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 06-02-2011, 12:55 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 06-02-2011, 03:49 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Magda Hassan - 06-02-2011, 04:59 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 06-02-2011, 05:37 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 06-02-2011, 06:28 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 06-02-2011, 03:52 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 06-02-2011, 04:00 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 06-02-2011, 04:40 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Cliff Varnell - 06-02-2011, 07:19 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 06-02-2011, 10:04 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 07-02-2011, 06:32 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 07-02-2011, 01:22 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 07-02-2011, 02:25 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 07-02-2011, 03:58 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 07-02-2011, 04:27 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 08-02-2011, 05:00 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 08-02-2011, 05:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 09-02-2011, 07:25 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 09-02-2011, 10:43 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 09-02-2011, 06:36 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 09-02-2011, 06:50 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 09-02-2011, 07:16 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 26-02-2011, 07:32 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 26-02-2011, 08:10 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 26-02-2011, 09:39 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 26-02-2011, 11:54 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 05:42 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 27-02-2011, 10:07 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 02:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 27-02-2011, 05:23 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2011, 05:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 05:55 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 27-02-2011, 06:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 07:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 18-03-2011, 04:37 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 18-03-2011, 05:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 18-03-2011, 05:45 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 18-03-2011, 09:57 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 19-03-2011, 01:55 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 19-03-2011, 04:06 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 19-03-2011, 04:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 19-03-2011, 04:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 19-03-2011, 05:33 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 19-03-2011, 07:53 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 19-03-2011, 09:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 02-04-2011, 02:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-04-2011, 03:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-04-2011, 06:23 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-04-2011, 06:36 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-04-2011, 08:53 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 21-04-2011, 05:11 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 22-04-2011, 02:46 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 22-04-2011, 04:15 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 22-04-2011, 04:37 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 22-04-2011, 09:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 23-04-2011, 06:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 25-04-2011, 02:57 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 30-04-2011, 05:40 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 30-04-2011, 07:12 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 30-04-2011, 07:16 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 30-04-2011, 09:11 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-05-2011, 05:45 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-05-2011, 05:49 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-05-2011, 04:02 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-05-2011, 05:10 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-05-2011, 05:16 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2013, 04:57 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 26-06-2013, 05:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2013, 05:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 06:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2013, 07:21 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Rossi - 26-06-2013, 08:36 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Gordon Gray - 26-06-2013, 08:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 09:54 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 10:03 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 11:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Gordon Gray - 27-06-2013, 10:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 28-06-2013, 12:16 AM

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