07-12-2010, 12:18 PM
Peter Presland Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:That's the direction I'm moving in too David. There are two fundamentally different issues here:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Personally, I'm getting pissed off at the Assange baiters. Time will tell.....
Oddly enough, I think we are now past Assange and Wikileaks per se. Whether he is an Israeli tool, or not, also is no longer the main point imo.
This has become an international fight for the freedom of speech and holding our lying, deceitful and corrupt political elites to account. The power they have at their fingertips is clear for all to see. And their will to wield that power, irrespective of the rule of law, is also now blatantly obvious. And the often concealed spider's web of their power is also coming more sharply into focus.
The SIS's are deeply complicit in both (the evidence to date says Mossad especially so on item 1 in this particular case) and probably don't have much of a preference for whether or not the level of stuff we are seeing is released or not. They'll do their thing whatever.
- Access to unedited/unmediated information
- The manipulation (spin) of the information post-facto
There are overlaps but the pure politicos are another matter entirely. Item 1 may indeed be selectively released to serve hidden agendas. There may even be the odd damaging plant etc etc but the instincts of the puppets is always to kill the messenger whenever their strutting, preening status is exposed for the lying self-serving sham that it actually is.
BTW Assange was arrested 9:30 this morning - in custody awaiting bail hearing etc.
Same here Peter. I can't help but think if this was all for real, he would of been a dead man a long time ago.

