11-11-2010, 11:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2010, 12:10 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:In the past the earth has gone through numerous warm and cold periods without any human intervention and there is absolutely no reason to think that this will somehow stop. Whether or not the current warming is humanely induced and can be humanely stopped is open for debate. CO2 levels may be a meaningful indicator, like ocean temperatures and ice thickness, but I seriously doubt that human control of CO2 emission is a meaningful lever of control for the climate. Other, natural sources, are just so much bigger. But I admit I am no expert in this area.
The problems I foresee are more the social and economic type of coastal areas becoming flooded, some areas becoming uninhabitable while others becoming actually inhabitable. Maybe I should invest in real estate on Greenland.
I am an expert in the field. This is what I have my graduate degree in and teach at university. This current climate change is entirely anthropogenic....sorry. Further, it is the greatest threat to very rapid extinction of us and most living things [say 25-75 years for great suffering/disease/displacement/wars/daeath to be felt by most - the poor first] and may have reached the tipping point - after which almost nothing could stop it. I could, but won't, deluge you with technical proofs. It is the energy companies keeping doubt alive.....don't buy it.
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