08-06-2010, 06:37 PM
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Anthony Marsh Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Poor woman. I can't blame her. At her age I'm sure she is way too old to have to put up with this bull shit. A pity though because we need people like her.
Well, she did bring up an interesting point.
We are all immigrants. We all came here from some other country. Humans were not indigenous to the Americas.
I myself can only trace my family lineage back to the second ship to reach my state, the Fortune, not the Mayflower. So here is my Modest Proposal. Every single person should be deported back to their original country.
So I'd be lucky to land back in the middle of England. Native Americans would be sent back to Asia. That's one way to reverse the diaspora.
That's nonsense often used by apologists for Israel.
You can't equate the colonisation of the Americas (or Australia) with Israel's colonisation of Palestine.
The latter was an artificial construct by UN resolution to implant an outside population into a new neighbourhood. A failed experiment.
If the UNs motives were pure, it was underpinned by a disastrously naive assumption that the new colonists would harmoniously blend into such a hostile environment, while the displaced indigenous race would just sit back and say that's fine with us. More likely Britain and the US wanted a foot in the door to the oil rich region, as I think Paul Rigby has stated elsewhere on the DPF. In either case, it has been a total failure.
Ghandi opposed it and Einstein declined an offer to become Israel's first President. They were right.
You are being selective about how far to look back. Jews lived in that area long before the UN. Jews and Arabs always lived together and always fought.
The US and British were already friendly with the Arabs to get their oil. If oil was the only thing they wanted, why be friends with the Jews who had no oil? How can the Jews wander around for 40 years in the desert and just happen to pick the ONLY spot which doesn't have ANY oil while being surrounded by trillions of barrels of oil everywhere else?