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Revolutionary response to home forclosure
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Quote:The guy that flew the plane into the IRS building was violent because he caused the death of people. If he had flown the plane in to the building with out people in it, say at night time, or had them evacuated, it would have been different.
Magda, with the utmost respect, I posit:

Who owns the building? I understand your position that property ownership is in itself evil but suppose:

I have worked as a wage slave for 20 years and I squirreled away every dime I had and scrimped and saved and did without and my family lived a pauper's lifestyle for all that time until I could afford a 10% down payment on a commercial building (an investment for my future, better than what the banks offered) and that building had good long-term tenants such as the U.S. Government and the IRS who were going to make the payments, and...

...I paid the down payment and took out a 30 year mortgage on this building because a bank agreed to front the money on the investment...

...and now I was set up to semi-retire and pay for my mother's liver transplant on the proceeds. The lease payments are secure and bring in a little more than the bank takes.

...And then along comes this guy with a grievance against the IRS so he crashes his plane into my building and destroys it. And of course I have lost everything because my insurance doesn't pay for acts of "terrorism".

How is that not destroying MY life? How is that different?

You see, my struggle with your adamant stands is this...in my experience as an American worker and as a small business owner...it's not just the banks nor the "Capitalists" who are affected by radical acts. 90% of business in America is classified as "small business". Now granted, they control much less of the economy than the multinationals, but they actually offer far more of the employment.

I submit that the real situation is much more complex and sensitive than the arguments you offer that "property ownership is evil" and all the banks are at fault and that capitalism is the culprit. At least in my experience, where I grew up and where I currently live, capitalism IS my neighbor. It is the barber shop proprietor, the pizza franchise owner, the corner market owner.

These are not evil people. These are people who are trying their best to be fair to others and still make their way in a hard cold world.

So when I ask what is a better, more fair approach, I hope for an answer that offers something other than that banks and corporations are bad.

I agree with you on that level. But without them my Pakastani friend down at the Quicky-Mart would not have had the chance to even start.

And I guarantee you that the IRS was not hurt by the guy who blew up the building they were in. Dammit, the IRS didn't own the building. Someone else did; someone probably innocent of the whole situation...they were the ones who were hurt.

I greatly respect you and the work you are doing here...And I am very willing to consider the points you make to help me see things as you do.
"If you're looking for something that isn't there, you're wasting your time and the taxpayers' money."

-Michael Neuman, U.S. Government bureaucrat, on why NIST didn't address explosives in its report on the WTC collapses
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