14-02-2010, 05:49 PM
Bruce Clemens Wrote:The thing that confuses me about why this is an issue is:
You have the rights...whether they "read" them to you or not. Miranda does not confer the right to remain silent...it just advises one of it.
So lawyer-up immediately whether they tell you you can or not.
A lawyer [Dawn!] can correct me, but my thought was that while it only informed you of your rights - not conferred them, if you say anything, do anything, admit anything, volunteer anything physical THEY CAN USE IT! Most are so intimidated by the Police in the USA [they kill many before they get to the station], no matter how innocent - or even if a bit guilty - they often say and do too much - not in their favor. I myself was once put in a Federal jail pending seeing a judge and was not allowed to make a phone call, though I knew I had such a right. Justice [to paraphrase W] is just a seven letter word.
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"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass