21-12-2009, 11:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 22-12-2009, 04:39 PM by John Bevilaqua.)
When I talked to Nathaniel Weyl, perhaps 5-6 years ago, maybe a little more, he was quite lucid, in full charge of his senses and his memory and he was quite talkative, too.
And, yes, I told him that what he just described to me about Operation Red Cross, made him an accessory to murder, and a bona fide violator of The Neutrality Act as well and he stammered, stuttered and harrumphed as well. It was only later that I read where he concocted that story about this gigantic ocean going vessel plowing between the mother ship and the shoreline, running parallel to he shoreline which allegedly swamped the speed boat. Well bull crap to that as well. There is no frigging way that these little rafts, inflated with air could have made it out to a point 10 miles from shore after trying to murder Castro or after running a major boom and bang operation against
Castro. No way in hell. And how about trying to find the mother ship in the pitch black darkness? Again, no way in hell. I honestly can not recall now whether he said that these rafts were oar powered or motorboat powered but to cover 10 miles at 10 miles an hour would have taken an hour. This implies that the mother ship was much closer to shore than ever admitted.
1) The mother ship was within the 10-mile statutory limit.
2) Weyl only added this little safety zone buffer after I called him a 2-time felon and a Neutrality Act violator.
3) Weyl only made up this ocean going vessel story with the wake allegedly swamping the speed boat story long after I put the fear of God in him. How many vessels large enough to swamp a speed boat would be travelling left to right within 5 miles of shore in the middle of the night anyway? Another total fabrication. Most ocean going vessels that large would be going nose in, perpendicular to the shore, within well defined, well lighted, channels in order to avoid scraping bottom.
4) Weyl described with a certain sadistic glee in his voice the pleasure with which he watched these "lying sons of bitches" and infiltrators sink beneath the surface, riddled with 50-caliber machine gun bullets, and weighed down by their boots, gunbelts and ammo clips.
5) He stated that these infiltrators had tried to make fools of the entire crew, by making up the stories about the alleged Russian Missile Officers and he indicated that the terrible swift sword and the 50-caliber machine guns had been used as cover upon their departure since they were suspected of possibly leading the boat into some sort of ambush, and then used to wreak revenge and punishment because they returned empty handed. When everyone realized that they had been had, the response was swift, sure and lethal, very lethal. Bayo and company were not even allowed to board the mother ship. They were shot as they sat in the raft or rafts. Plain and simple. It is also possible that Weyl mentioned that whoever was in charge of the mission, was worried that if they were caught near Cuban shores with these commandoes in tow or on board, that it would have been a very difficult thing to establish plausible deniablility as I am sure you can understand.
6) "A review of Cuban army documents relating to the capture or killing of anti-Castro raiders, (based on) research done in June 1997, revealed no record of Bayo." No body, no evidence, no record of ever catching the infiltrators. EXACTLY what Weyl had described to me.
7) As to your bald faced "assumption" about the role of the CIA in this little gambit. Even Weyl put that to rest when he related how John Martino in an article in 2003, who was a close friend of Dr. Revilo P. Oliver a founder of the John Birch Society where they often appeared together on the John Birch Speaker's Tour Platforms, was the one who actually approached Nathaniel Weyl, a Eugenicist and a right wing extremist, in the Wickliffe Draper mold and someone who wrote about Frederick Osborn, a Pioneer Fund director in the early 1950's and even co-authored a book with him. So in fact Operation Red Cross was a John Birch gambit and a Pioneer Fund project since Bayo specifically insisted that he would have nothing to do with the CIA, due to the perceived double cross at the Bay of Pigs. And
now I am certain that not only the anti-Castro exiles, but even E. H. Hunt IN 2007, plus many members on multiple JFK forums have a distinct personal or political grudge against the CIA, and just automatically respond with a knee-jerk reaction whenever they think they can blame something on the CIA when in fact the event in question, had NOTHING TO DO with the CIA. E. H. Hunt lamented the fact that he was sold down the river after Watergate, blaming the CIA himself, and he probably spent the rest of his life writing and selling books in order to put food on the table. Even William F. Buckley, Jr. had long since parted company with the CIA and turned to proselytizing, writing and wagging that serpentine tongue. Billy Buck did not even need the income from the CIA since he was "The Mastah" and very wealthy.
So can we all agree that Operation Red Cross was indeed, a John Birch, Pioneer Fund and SISS project of James Eastland, Robert Morris his legal counsel and Nathaniel Weyl and put this one to bed once and for all?
"In 1963, John Martino came to me with a fascinating story. He had attended a meeting in Palm Beach at which a Cuban who used the nom de guerre of Bayo claimed that the Soviets had deceived President Kennedy and that Russian missiles were still in Cuba. Bayo said he knew this because two of the Soviet officers guarding these clandestine missiles had defected, were being hidden and guarded by the remnants of the anti-Castro underground and were desperately anxious to tell their story.
I was told that this was an emergency. The Russians could be captured by Castro's forces at any time. John Martino said that their Cuban protectors could get them safely to the northern coast of the island and thence by boat to some agreed-upon rendezvous point in the Bahamas if we acted immediately.
Martino added that Bayo and the other Cuban patriots would have nothing to do with anyone from the CIA because they believed that the Agency had betrayed them at the Bay of Pigs.
Could I get a yacht, designate a time and place to meet on some remote Bahamas island, get there and bring the Russian officers to the American mainland? If it was to be done, it must be done immediately."
You can debate as long as you want what a "better strategy" would have been, or what "publicity value" could have been obtained by coming home with no Russian Missile Officers, with a tale of woe about murdered patriots and murdered Freedom Fighters, but I am telling you what Weyl told me. Nothing more nothing less. I forgot to add the fact that Weyl also told me that the Cuban patrol boats with
spotlights and the aerial reconnaissance planes also with spotlights were circling around in the near vicinity trying to locate either the raft(s) or the mother ship. Not knowing whether or not they would be able to evade the Cuban search party, they decided that discretion was
the better part of valor, and they destroyed the incriminating evidence, the commandos, their guns and their raft(s), rather than run the risk of creating a major international cause celeb and an international crisis which might end up putting them in jail or causing a whole lot of
headaches for Life Magazine, C.D. Jackson, Henry B. Luce, the other occupants of the boat including any case officers, SOFs, and Senators Eastland and Goldwater, and for whomever Weyl was working for at that time. This next conclusion is just a supposition on my part, but somehow they must have felt that coming back from Cuba WITH Missile Officers, and WITHOUT being buzzed and identified by patrol boats or reconnaissance planes would result in their being declared conquering heroes, and they could have made up any lies about territorial waters they wanted to since, after the fact, they would never have been EVER SEEN in Cuban territorial waters. Plus with either their "captured prizes" or "willing defectors" (yeah right) in tow whatever they did to accomplish their task would ostensibly have been either ignored or forgiven. I am certain that Eastland and Goldwater thought that JFK would either have been summarily impeached or even chickened out on a run for re-election in 1964, had their little plot worked out as planned. In any event, having failed at character assassination, they moved on to the real thing. I used to think that NSAM 263 (was it ?) about the ICBM gap was the FINAL denouement of JFK and the final nail in his coffin, but in fact Operation Red Cross might have sealed his fate instead and NSAM 263 was just icing on the cake. Not so hard to swallow, right?
The fact is, that the occupants of that boat, whomever they worked for, decided very quickly that the best strategy was to kill the bastidges, and sink the bastidges to the bottom of the sea. Now they sleep with the fishes. And dead men tell no tales.
And since Weyl and his associates feared discovery with their hands in the cookie jar more than anything else (as I have since surmised) they exercised their first, best option and eliminated the evidence, escaped the search posse, and then headed back to Florida only to face the wrath of Goldwater and Eastland. Plus Richard Billings realized that he had been totally taken in as well. What could he write after he came back with no officers and no commandos? Oh, gee, I violated the Neutrality Act, trying to get a story, I watched as these guys came back empty handed, and stood by as their raft and the men themselves were shot full of holes, and went to visit Davey Jones Locker, or whatever, while I did nothing. Does that make William Pawley an accessory to murder as well as all the occupants of that boat and maybe even C. D. Jackson and Henry Luce, too? Of course it does. Just another case of Knight takes Pawn, Bishop takes Pawn and King advances to safety quite covering the Queen.
For JFK it would have been better had they actually found some incriminating evidence of Russian Missiles or Officers however flimsy. Then at least Goldwater and Eastland would have or could have waited for the election to determine the next president. As it was, this failure at Character Assassination quickly turned into the next logical step: the plot for Physical Assassination. The rest is history.
And I know who Clare Booth Luce's contact with a name something like: "Julio Fernandez" was, too. He he he.
This post has been edited by John Bevilaqua: Today, 06:38 AM
And, yes, I told him that what he just described to me about Operation Red Cross, made him an accessory to murder, and a bona fide violator of The Neutrality Act as well and he stammered, stuttered and harrumphed as well. It was only later that I read where he concocted that story about this gigantic ocean going vessel plowing between the mother ship and the shoreline, running parallel to he shoreline which allegedly swamped the speed boat. Well bull crap to that as well. There is no frigging way that these little rafts, inflated with air could have made it out to a point 10 miles from shore after trying to murder Castro or after running a major boom and bang operation against
Castro. No way in hell. And how about trying to find the mother ship in the pitch black darkness? Again, no way in hell. I honestly can not recall now whether he said that these rafts were oar powered or motorboat powered but to cover 10 miles at 10 miles an hour would have taken an hour. This implies that the mother ship was much closer to shore than ever admitted.
1) The mother ship was within the 10-mile statutory limit.
2) Weyl only added this little safety zone buffer after I called him a 2-time felon and a Neutrality Act violator.
3) Weyl only made up this ocean going vessel story with the wake allegedly swamping the speed boat story long after I put the fear of God in him. How many vessels large enough to swamp a speed boat would be travelling left to right within 5 miles of shore in the middle of the night anyway? Another total fabrication. Most ocean going vessels that large would be going nose in, perpendicular to the shore, within well defined, well lighted, channels in order to avoid scraping bottom.
4) Weyl described with a certain sadistic glee in his voice the pleasure with which he watched these "lying sons of bitches" and infiltrators sink beneath the surface, riddled with 50-caliber machine gun bullets, and weighed down by their boots, gunbelts and ammo clips.
5) He stated that these infiltrators had tried to make fools of the entire crew, by making up the stories about the alleged Russian Missile Officers and he indicated that the terrible swift sword and the 50-caliber machine guns had been used as cover upon their departure since they were suspected of possibly leading the boat into some sort of ambush, and then used to wreak revenge and punishment because they returned empty handed. When everyone realized that they had been had, the response was swift, sure and lethal, very lethal. Bayo and company were not even allowed to board the mother ship. They were shot as they sat in the raft or rafts. Plain and simple. It is also possible that Weyl mentioned that whoever was in charge of the mission, was worried that if they were caught near Cuban shores with these commandoes in tow or on board, that it would have been a very difficult thing to establish plausible deniablility as I am sure you can understand.
6) "A review of Cuban army documents relating to the capture or killing of anti-Castro raiders, (based on) research done in June 1997, revealed no record of Bayo." No body, no evidence, no record of ever catching the infiltrators. EXACTLY what Weyl had described to me.
7) As to your bald faced "assumption" about the role of the CIA in this little gambit. Even Weyl put that to rest when he related how John Martino in an article in 2003, who was a close friend of Dr. Revilo P. Oliver a founder of the John Birch Society where they often appeared together on the John Birch Speaker's Tour Platforms, was the one who actually approached Nathaniel Weyl, a Eugenicist and a right wing extremist, in the Wickliffe Draper mold and someone who wrote about Frederick Osborn, a Pioneer Fund director in the early 1950's and even co-authored a book with him. So in fact Operation Red Cross was a John Birch gambit and a Pioneer Fund project since Bayo specifically insisted that he would have nothing to do with the CIA, due to the perceived double cross at the Bay of Pigs. And
now I am certain that not only the anti-Castro exiles, but even E. H. Hunt IN 2007, plus many members on multiple JFK forums have a distinct personal or political grudge against the CIA, and just automatically respond with a knee-jerk reaction whenever they think they can blame something on the CIA when in fact the event in question, had NOTHING TO DO with the CIA. E. H. Hunt lamented the fact that he was sold down the river after Watergate, blaming the CIA himself, and he probably spent the rest of his life writing and selling books in order to put food on the table. Even William F. Buckley, Jr. had long since parted company with the CIA and turned to proselytizing, writing and wagging that serpentine tongue. Billy Buck did not even need the income from the CIA since he was "The Mastah" and very wealthy.
So can we all agree that Operation Red Cross was indeed, a John Birch, Pioneer Fund and SISS project of James Eastland, Robert Morris his legal counsel and Nathaniel Weyl and put this one to bed once and for all?
"In 1963, John Martino came to me with a fascinating story. He had attended a meeting in Palm Beach at which a Cuban who used the nom de guerre of Bayo claimed that the Soviets had deceived President Kennedy and that Russian missiles were still in Cuba. Bayo said he knew this because two of the Soviet officers guarding these clandestine missiles had defected, were being hidden and guarded by the remnants of the anti-Castro underground and were desperately anxious to tell their story.
I was told that this was an emergency. The Russians could be captured by Castro's forces at any time. John Martino said that their Cuban protectors could get them safely to the northern coast of the island and thence by boat to some agreed-upon rendezvous point in the Bahamas if we acted immediately.
Martino added that Bayo and the other Cuban patriots would have nothing to do with anyone from the CIA because they believed that the Agency had betrayed them at the Bay of Pigs.
Could I get a yacht, designate a time and place to meet on some remote Bahamas island, get there and bring the Russian officers to the American mainland? If it was to be done, it must be done immediately."
You can debate as long as you want what a "better strategy" would have been, or what "publicity value" could have been obtained by coming home with no Russian Missile Officers, with a tale of woe about murdered patriots and murdered Freedom Fighters, but I am telling you what Weyl told me. Nothing more nothing less. I forgot to add the fact that Weyl also told me that the Cuban patrol boats with
spotlights and the aerial reconnaissance planes also with spotlights were circling around in the near vicinity trying to locate either the raft(s) or the mother ship. Not knowing whether or not they would be able to evade the Cuban search party, they decided that discretion was
the better part of valor, and they destroyed the incriminating evidence, the commandos, their guns and their raft(s), rather than run the risk of creating a major international cause celeb and an international crisis which might end up putting them in jail or causing a whole lot of
headaches for Life Magazine, C.D. Jackson, Henry B. Luce, the other occupants of the boat including any case officers, SOFs, and Senators Eastland and Goldwater, and for whomever Weyl was working for at that time. This next conclusion is just a supposition on my part, but somehow they must have felt that coming back from Cuba WITH Missile Officers, and WITHOUT being buzzed and identified by patrol boats or reconnaissance planes would result in their being declared conquering heroes, and they could have made up any lies about territorial waters they wanted to since, after the fact, they would never have been EVER SEEN in Cuban territorial waters. Plus with either their "captured prizes" or "willing defectors" (yeah right) in tow whatever they did to accomplish their task would ostensibly have been either ignored or forgiven. I am certain that Eastland and Goldwater thought that JFK would either have been summarily impeached or even chickened out on a run for re-election in 1964, had their little plot worked out as planned. In any event, having failed at character assassination, they moved on to the real thing. I used to think that NSAM 263 (was it ?) about the ICBM gap was the FINAL denouement of JFK and the final nail in his coffin, but in fact Operation Red Cross might have sealed his fate instead and NSAM 263 was just icing on the cake. Not so hard to swallow, right?
The fact is, that the occupants of that boat, whomever they worked for, decided very quickly that the best strategy was to kill the bastidges, and sink the bastidges to the bottom of the sea. Now they sleep with the fishes. And dead men tell no tales.
And since Weyl and his associates feared discovery with their hands in the cookie jar more than anything else (as I have since surmised) they exercised their first, best option and eliminated the evidence, escaped the search posse, and then headed back to Florida only to face the wrath of Goldwater and Eastland. Plus Richard Billings realized that he had been totally taken in as well. What could he write after he came back with no officers and no commandos? Oh, gee, I violated the Neutrality Act, trying to get a story, I watched as these guys came back empty handed, and stood by as their raft and the men themselves were shot full of holes, and went to visit Davey Jones Locker, or whatever, while I did nothing. Does that make William Pawley an accessory to murder as well as all the occupants of that boat and maybe even C. D. Jackson and Henry Luce, too? Of course it does. Just another case of Knight takes Pawn, Bishop takes Pawn and King advances to safety quite covering the Queen.
For JFK it would have been better had they actually found some incriminating evidence of Russian Missiles or Officers however flimsy. Then at least Goldwater and Eastland would have or could have waited for the election to determine the next president. As it was, this failure at Character Assassination quickly turned into the next logical step: the plot for Physical Assassination. The rest is history.
And I know who Clare Booth Luce's contact with a name something like: "Julio Fernandez" was, too. He he he.
This post has been edited by John Bevilaqua: Today, 06:38 AM
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Amazon will be selling my print-on-demand paperback manuscript at this site within a few days. Volume 1 is 120 pages in length and covers The Manchurian Candidate by Richard Condon, The Winnipeg Airport Incident with Richard Giesbrecht, Anastase Vonsiatsky, THE Manchurian Candidate and Wickliffe Draper and The Pioneer Fund.
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