08-11-2009, 11:56 PM
Gentlemen,
I'm doing this publicly in order to illustrate just what makes the Deep Politics Forum different -- and yes, better -- than at least one of the older, more heavily trafficked (for now) JFK forums.
I'll start with Paul: Your off-hand reference to a well-known intel-run persona was gratuitous and wholly inappropriate to the informed discourse that separates the DPF from the pack.
If you have serious charges to make about anyone who posts on these pages -- most significantly one of the founders of the DPF whose credentials as a powerful force for truth long have been established -- then by all means make them. Your arguments will be aired here.
But you damn well better do more than sling mud.
That being stated, I too have serious problems with Chomsky's JFK-related work. But I believe I can explain the driving force behind the good professor's limited understanding of the Kennedy presidency and legacy without crossing into "CIA asset" territory.
In perhaps too neat a nutshell: Chomsky needs a megadose or three of James Douglass.
Jan: Compared to how I would have reacted if my work had been equated to the oeuvre of one of the most notorious and obvious intel assets posting on the Internet, your response was moderate in the extreme.
Further, and as a review of the record will indicate clearly, I too reject Paul's shot-from-the-limo nonsense.
On the other hand, I am convinced that certain Secret Service agents and administrators were part of the conspiracy at the Facilitator level.
On balance, then, and in my role as site administrator, I must ask Paul, Jan, and everyone else to avoid naming the disinformation operation persona identified in the above posts. Why? Because to engage it is to enoble it.
It has been outed. For now -- just for now -- we can't do much more.
Jan, you have every right to your informed opinions about Chomsky and about Paul's methods and conclusions. As does Paul about Chomsky and you.
But no one of good conscience would wish to give even a single "win" to the dark forces who operate the ***** persona.
Let cooler heads prevail.
I am going to claim administrator's privilege and remove the intel persona's nom du guerre from the preceding posts.
Charlie
I'm doing this publicly in order to illustrate just what makes the Deep Politics Forum different -- and yes, better -- than at least one of the older, more heavily trafficked (for now) JFK forums.
I'll start with Paul: Your off-hand reference to a well-known intel-run persona was gratuitous and wholly inappropriate to the informed discourse that separates the DPF from the pack.
If you have serious charges to make about anyone who posts on these pages -- most significantly one of the founders of the DPF whose credentials as a powerful force for truth long have been established -- then by all means make them. Your arguments will be aired here.
But you damn well better do more than sling mud.
That being stated, I too have serious problems with Chomsky's JFK-related work. But I believe I can explain the driving force behind the good professor's limited understanding of the Kennedy presidency and legacy without crossing into "CIA asset" territory.
In perhaps too neat a nutshell: Chomsky needs a megadose or three of James Douglass.
Jan: Compared to how I would have reacted if my work had been equated to the oeuvre of one of the most notorious and obvious intel assets posting on the Internet, your response was moderate in the extreme.
Further, and as a review of the record will indicate clearly, I too reject Paul's shot-from-the-limo nonsense.
On the other hand, I am convinced that certain Secret Service agents and administrators were part of the conspiracy at the Facilitator level.
On balance, then, and in my role as site administrator, I must ask Paul, Jan, and everyone else to avoid naming the disinformation operation persona identified in the above posts. Why? Because to engage it is to enoble it.
It has been outed. For now -- just for now -- we can't do much more.
Jan, you have every right to your informed opinions about Chomsky and about Paul's methods and conclusions. As does Paul about Chomsky and you.
But no one of good conscience would wish to give even a single "win" to the dark forces who operate the ***** persona.
Let cooler heads prevail.
I am going to claim administrator's privilege and remove the intel persona's nom du guerre from the preceding posts.
Charlie
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene