07-04-2024, 09:10 PM
The problem with that is the Oswald who just came from the Depository and was seen by Helen Forrest was the same Oswald that was seen by Ochus Campbell and Mrs Reid...Neither of them was on record as saying the Oswald they saw was slightly different than the Oswald seen by Baker & Truly...Mrs Reid saw Oswald in a T-shirt...The reason why the Commission never asked Campbell what the Oswald he saw was wearing is because they knew it was Lee and knew he was wearing a white T-shirt...They deliberately avoided asking Campbell what the Oswald he saw was wearing because they didn't want it leading to more questions...Sometimes what people don't say says more than what they do...
I'm convinced I am correct on my Lobby scenario because it possesses causal evidence that fits the dynamics of what is happening...Mrs Reid saw an Oswald (Lee) who was headed for the front stairs...That Oswald was Lee because he was wearing a white T-shirt...He bought a Coca Cola as a prop to make people think he was the same person as Harvey who was seen by Sarah Stanton and Baker & Truly with a similar Coca Cola...This Oswald went down the front stairs with a timing that was after Harvey had gone down to Lobby to look for CIA Shelley to coordinate permission to leave...Shelley had gone around the west side of the Depository and was coming back inside by that time (3-4 minutes after the shots)...
Harvey in long-sleeves had either gone through the 2nd Floor hallway and down the front stairs or he had gone down the NW stairs and walked to the front door area of the Lobby to wait for Shelley...When Lee stumbled down the front stairs and in to the Lobby he saw Harvey at the far side by the door...Ergonomic/behavioral criminal detection tells you that the Utility Closet is located at a 180 degree sharp hook-turn from the bottom of the front stairs, exactly as a person who needed to quickly get out of view would do in that situation...One must ask what the heck Ochus Campbell's Oswald was doing in the Utility Closet?...The answer is simple...He was getting out of view because he accidentally crossed paths with Harvey and was in peril of blowing the plot...Harvey, meanwhile, saw Lee emerge at the other end of the Lobby and panicked and tried to get out the front door...Both these events are strong CAUSAL evidence reinforcement that only bolsters their real-ness...It explains the actions of both men...The cop at the front door saw Harvey's panic and detained him...We know when this happened because Shelley was back by then and witnessed it at 4 minutes after the shots...Being CIA Shelley knew exactly what was going on and interceded - OK-ing Oswald as an employee with the cop and getting him out of his situation...Shelley then helped Harvey around the police restriction of being told to step aside and wait and led him out the rear exit...Again - what the Commission didn't do says more than what they did and they completely avoided any investigation of that second stop of Oswald in the Lobby because they did not want to reveal all this and blow the conspiracy...This incriminating behavior by the investigators is the mortar that reinforces the evidence...
After Frazier saw the long-sleeved Harvey go east and to the bus on Elm St Lee made sure he didn't cross paths again by going out the rear and going west towards the Grassy Knoll and the Station Wagon...Geneva Hine probably saw both Oswalds as they left the 2nd Floor and was coerced to cover it up - OR - she saw the T-shirt Oswald and was forced to cover it up...
We can't ask Marina about Oswald's accent because she is in a hopeless position...However, from her description I assumed she was saying Oswald sounded like a native Belarus Russian-speaker and not one who had advanced quickly with Berlitz and living in Belarus...
The real crime being committed here is that what we post here is the cutting edge of JFK conspiracy research and the Education Forum is designed exactly for exposure and discussion of these claims...For it to be excluded and denied that necessary examination, that is the alleged purpose of the research community, is criminal - especially when it is due to the less savory aspects of the community and their venal, childish tendencies...It is research by corruption instead of fidelity to good research practices and is inexcusable...
I'm convinced I am correct on my Lobby scenario because it possesses causal evidence that fits the dynamics of what is happening...Mrs Reid saw an Oswald (Lee) who was headed for the front stairs...That Oswald was Lee because he was wearing a white T-shirt...He bought a Coca Cola as a prop to make people think he was the same person as Harvey who was seen by Sarah Stanton and Baker & Truly with a similar Coca Cola...This Oswald went down the front stairs with a timing that was after Harvey had gone down to Lobby to look for CIA Shelley to coordinate permission to leave...Shelley had gone around the west side of the Depository and was coming back inside by that time (3-4 minutes after the shots)...
Harvey in long-sleeves had either gone through the 2nd Floor hallway and down the front stairs or he had gone down the NW stairs and walked to the front door area of the Lobby to wait for Shelley...When Lee stumbled down the front stairs and in to the Lobby he saw Harvey at the far side by the door...Ergonomic/behavioral criminal detection tells you that the Utility Closet is located at a 180 degree sharp hook-turn from the bottom of the front stairs, exactly as a person who needed to quickly get out of view would do in that situation...One must ask what the heck Ochus Campbell's Oswald was doing in the Utility Closet?...The answer is simple...He was getting out of view because he accidentally crossed paths with Harvey and was in peril of blowing the plot...Harvey, meanwhile, saw Lee emerge at the other end of the Lobby and panicked and tried to get out the front door...Both these events are strong CAUSAL evidence reinforcement that only bolsters their real-ness...It explains the actions of both men...The cop at the front door saw Harvey's panic and detained him...We know when this happened because Shelley was back by then and witnessed it at 4 minutes after the shots...Being CIA Shelley knew exactly what was going on and interceded - OK-ing Oswald as an employee with the cop and getting him out of his situation...Shelley then helped Harvey around the police restriction of being told to step aside and wait and led him out the rear exit...Again - what the Commission didn't do says more than what they did and they completely avoided any investigation of that second stop of Oswald in the Lobby because they did not want to reveal all this and blow the conspiracy...This incriminating behavior by the investigators is the mortar that reinforces the evidence...
After Frazier saw the long-sleeved Harvey go east and to the bus on Elm St Lee made sure he didn't cross paths again by going out the rear and going west towards the Grassy Knoll and the Station Wagon...Geneva Hine probably saw both Oswalds as they left the 2nd Floor and was coerced to cover it up - OR - she saw the T-shirt Oswald and was forced to cover it up...
We can't ask Marina about Oswald's accent because she is in a hopeless position...However, from her description I assumed she was saying Oswald sounded like a native Belarus Russian-speaker and not one who had advanced quickly with Berlitz and living in Belarus...
The real crime being committed here is that what we post here is the cutting edge of JFK conspiracy research and the Education Forum is designed exactly for exposure and discussion of these claims...For it to be excluded and denied that necessary examination, that is the alleged purpose of the research community, is criminal - especially when it is due to the less savory aspects of the community and their venal, childish tendencies...It is research by corruption instead of fidelity to good research practices and is inexcusable...