22-06-2018, 05:21 PM
After two tries, I still haven't heard of WHO suppressed the book by Turner and Christian?
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I am the proud owner of a copy of Destiny Betrayed by Mr. DiEugenio. I have not read the entire book, but only some portions. I cite Mr. DiEugenio on page 23 of the Three Barons. In the index to Destiny Betrayed, the most often cited names are Dean Andrews, James Angleton, Guy Banister, David Ferrie, Jim Garrison, JFK, John McCloy, Gordon Novel, LHO, Jack Ruby and Clay Shaw. He has pretty much "rounded up the usual suspects."
Mostly, I don't get how people can say "that's a good book" or "that book's been debunked" etc. In my conclusions in the Three Barons, I list my 71 relevant, material and probative items of circumstantial evidence on the assassination. To glean these 71 items, I had to read 150 books. So that's one item of crucial, probative evidence in about every 1000 pages.
In my review posted on Amazon for Dr. Caufield's book, I list 25 items of evidence or information that Dr. Caufield has discovered which no one else has found (to my knowledge). Out of the 780 pages of the book by Dr. Caufield, easily 95% of the paragraphs and pages are irrelevant and immaterial. The value of his book is the NEW INFORMATION he has discovered, not the relevance of all of the entirety of his information taken as a whole. And you never know where or when you will stumble across new, sensational JFK plot information. All you can do is look in every likely place and leave no stone unturned, (not even Oliver Stone).
The only book that gets the plot basically right IMHO is Treason For My Daily Bread by Mikhail Lebedev. AND THAT BOOK IS IN THE FICTION SECTION AT THE LIBRARY (if you can find it at all).
The pointed question that could be asked possibly of Mr. DiEugenio and Mr. Thorne would be "if you were to discover what you would consider to be the definitive explanation about the entire JFK plot, how would you visualize that happening?" Would you (or someone) stumble on the secret, lost diaries of Allen Dulles at a garage sale where the whole JFK plot is detailed? Would the still-classified JFK documents in the National Archives, if released, contain the definitive explanation of the plot? Would you be waiting for something like a "death-bed confession" that would blow the plot open?
IMHO, the JFK facts just aren't remotely like that. I would explain it like this: I have been (for the past two years at least) working in the libraries of the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the library of the Wisconsin Historical Society. Each of the two contains, easily, a million books about history. This would make around one billion pages total. My premise was (and is) that THE ENTIRE TRUTH about the JFK assassination is somewhere in that billion pages. The problem is how to go about finding it and digging it out. I assembled a database of 1500 names using 30 books. Only 70 of those people (plus or minus) were legally involved in the plot, in my estimation.
You could hypothetically "completely demolish" the entire evidence about the J D Tippit murder found in the Warren Commission and other places. That would NOT mean that, if you could do so, that you yourself knew who murdered Tippit. "Demolishing" other people's books (or any book) will not serve to (in itself) to prove that your book (or any book) has the plot figured out.
Dr. Caufield's book proves that LHO was infiltrating a number of Civil Rights groups working for Senator Eastland, not just the FPCC. This (to me), explains why LHO was as the voter rally in Clinton, LA.
Judyth Vary Baker's book (to me) explains that LHO was at the Jackson Mental hospital at the same time because it was part of Dr. Ochsner's cancer project. She also implicates Rep. Edwin Edward Willis and HUAC.
Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper reveals that Roy Frankhouser was working for the National Security Council on the JFK assassination plot.
The Torbitt File reveals the connection of General Julius Klein, Wernher von Braun and the Permindex organization to the plot.
What is said in these books, other than what I have mentioned, is (to me) pretty much immaterial. I could go through my entire bibliography of (now) 190 books and tell you exactly what new items of evidence (if any) that I discovered in that particular book. The information that was irrelevant, immaterial, etc. I quickly disregarded.
In fact, in my opinion, it is unlikely that more than, say, five people ever knew the scope of the entire plot or even all of the basic names involved. It was undoubtedly compartmentalized. The closest we have to an "insider confession" is the book by Prouty. Yet he himself openly features the fact that he was sent to Antarctica to keep him in the dark about the plot and the plotters. And as a result, he apparently remained in the dark on most of the plot information.
Regarding the JFK National Archives records, SOMEONE ALIVE TODAY has been going through those records to determine if they can be released. If the entire body of necessary information was inside one of those files, or even two or three, then that person would know who killed JFK, how and why. Don't people see that this is impossible? If there was something there that was of this magnitude, some investigator would (even accidentally) spill the beans, maybe to his wife, or somebody. There is, most likely, no "smoking gun" in the National Archives or other U.S. government files. (That's not to say there is no valuable evidence there, however).
Many people (in my opinion) don't realize that ONE MERE FACT like identifying Skorzeny as QJ/WIN could easily outweigh in importance, an entire book like Dallas 1963 by Bill Minutaglio et.al., Destiny Betrayed by Di Eugenio, or even Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by Peter Dale Scott.
My investigative technique is apparently very similar to that of Fusion GPS. Glenn Simpson (of that firm) said that the first thing they do when hired to investigate something, is to order every available book from Amazon on the subject and to read them. AFTER THAT, THEY HIT THE PAVEMENT WITH INTERVIEWS, ETC.
I would say that my work on the assassination, has about 75% of the information and the parties involved. That's why I am still looking.
Question: Did FDR know about Pearl Harbor before it happened?
Question: Was FDR poisoned?
Question: Did Hitler survive WWII and die of old age in South America?
Question: Was the Vatican involved in the Lincoln assassination?
Question: Was the US National Security State invented by Gestapo Chief Heinrich Muller?
Question: Did the airplanes made by the Wright brothers actually fly?
It's not a question of "who has the truth?' Rather, it's "which theory survives."
James Lateer
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I am the proud owner of a copy of Destiny Betrayed by Mr. DiEugenio. I have not read the entire book, but only some portions. I cite Mr. DiEugenio on page 23 of the Three Barons. In the index to Destiny Betrayed, the most often cited names are Dean Andrews, James Angleton, Guy Banister, David Ferrie, Jim Garrison, JFK, John McCloy, Gordon Novel, LHO, Jack Ruby and Clay Shaw. He has pretty much "rounded up the usual suspects."
Mostly, I don't get how people can say "that's a good book" or "that book's been debunked" etc. In my conclusions in the Three Barons, I list my 71 relevant, material and probative items of circumstantial evidence on the assassination. To glean these 71 items, I had to read 150 books. So that's one item of crucial, probative evidence in about every 1000 pages.
In my review posted on Amazon for Dr. Caufield's book, I list 25 items of evidence or information that Dr. Caufield has discovered which no one else has found (to my knowledge). Out of the 780 pages of the book by Dr. Caufield, easily 95% of the paragraphs and pages are irrelevant and immaterial. The value of his book is the NEW INFORMATION he has discovered, not the relevance of all of the entirety of his information taken as a whole. And you never know where or when you will stumble across new, sensational JFK plot information. All you can do is look in every likely place and leave no stone unturned, (not even Oliver Stone).
The only book that gets the plot basically right IMHO is Treason For My Daily Bread by Mikhail Lebedev. AND THAT BOOK IS IN THE FICTION SECTION AT THE LIBRARY (if you can find it at all).
The pointed question that could be asked possibly of Mr. DiEugenio and Mr. Thorne would be "if you were to discover what you would consider to be the definitive explanation about the entire JFK plot, how would you visualize that happening?" Would you (or someone) stumble on the secret, lost diaries of Allen Dulles at a garage sale where the whole JFK plot is detailed? Would the still-classified JFK documents in the National Archives, if released, contain the definitive explanation of the plot? Would you be waiting for something like a "death-bed confession" that would blow the plot open?
IMHO, the JFK facts just aren't remotely like that. I would explain it like this: I have been (for the past two years at least) working in the libraries of the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the library of the Wisconsin Historical Society. Each of the two contains, easily, a million books about history. This would make around one billion pages total. My premise was (and is) that THE ENTIRE TRUTH about the JFK assassination is somewhere in that billion pages. The problem is how to go about finding it and digging it out. I assembled a database of 1500 names using 30 books. Only 70 of those people (plus or minus) were legally involved in the plot, in my estimation.
You could hypothetically "completely demolish" the entire evidence about the J D Tippit murder found in the Warren Commission and other places. That would NOT mean that, if you could do so, that you yourself knew who murdered Tippit. "Demolishing" other people's books (or any book) will not serve to (in itself) to prove that your book (or any book) has the plot figured out.
Dr. Caufield's book proves that LHO was infiltrating a number of Civil Rights groups working for Senator Eastland, not just the FPCC. This (to me), explains why LHO was as the voter rally in Clinton, LA.
Judyth Vary Baker's book (to me) explains that LHO was at the Jackson Mental hospital at the same time because it was part of Dr. Ochsner's cancer project. She also implicates Rep. Edwin Edward Willis and HUAC.
Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper reveals that Roy Frankhouser was working for the National Security Council on the JFK assassination plot.
The Torbitt File reveals the connection of General Julius Klein, Wernher von Braun and the Permindex organization to the plot.
What is said in these books, other than what I have mentioned, is (to me) pretty much immaterial. I could go through my entire bibliography of (now) 190 books and tell you exactly what new items of evidence (if any) that I discovered in that particular book. The information that was irrelevant, immaterial, etc. I quickly disregarded.
In fact, in my opinion, it is unlikely that more than, say, five people ever knew the scope of the entire plot or even all of the basic names involved. It was undoubtedly compartmentalized. The closest we have to an "insider confession" is the book by Prouty. Yet he himself openly features the fact that he was sent to Antarctica to keep him in the dark about the plot and the plotters. And as a result, he apparently remained in the dark on most of the plot information.
Regarding the JFK National Archives records, SOMEONE ALIVE TODAY has been going through those records to determine if they can be released. If the entire body of necessary information was inside one of those files, or even two or three, then that person would know who killed JFK, how and why. Don't people see that this is impossible? If there was something there that was of this magnitude, some investigator would (even accidentally) spill the beans, maybe to his wife, or somebody. There is, most likely, no "smoking gun" in the National Archives or other U.S. government files. (That's not to say there is no valuable evidence there, however).
Many people (in my opinion) don't realize that ONE MERE FACT like identifying Skorzeny as QJ/WIN could easily outweigh in importance, an entire book like Dallas 1963 by Bill Minutaglio et.al., Destiny Betrayed by Di Eugenio, or even Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by Peter Dale Scott.
My investigative technique is apparently very similar to that of Fusion GPS. Glenn Simpson (of that firm) said that the first thing they do when hired to investigate something, is to order every available book from Amazon on the subject and to read them. AFTER THAT, THEY HIT THE PAVEMENT WITH INTERVIEWS, ETC.
I would say that my work on the assassination, has about 75% of the information and the parties involved. That's why I am still looking.
Question: Did FDR know about Pearl Harbor before it happened?
Question: Was FDR poisoned?
Question: Did Hitler survive WWII and die of old age in South America?
Question: Was the Vatican involved in the Lincoln assassination?
Question: Was the US National Security State invented by Gestapo Chief Heinrich Muller?
Question: Did the airplanes made by the Wright brothers actually fly?
It's not a question of "who has the truth?' Rather, it's "which theory survives."
James Lateer