Russian Ambassador to Turkey murdered

[Michael Barwell]

This is a heinous act if true and I hope Russia and Turkey find all of those responsible if there was a broader conspiracy.

With that said, the video is strange in that he seems to die right away without even a twitch after he hit the ground, with no apparent bleeding. I've thankfully never seen a shooting in person, is it normal for a victim to lose consciousness before he hits the ground?

I think the bullets went through the heart or aorta and most significantly the spine detaching the brain from what was below. imo.

Not an anatomy expert, but I'd think the spinal cord would have to be severed around neck level for the victim to lose control of his upper limbs. Which would mean an exit wound on the front of the neck or the exposed area of the jacket lapel that we never saw when he was standing. No visible wound or blood there or anywhere else. It looks like he's getting hit on the torso well below the neck. I suppose it could have been a neck shot with small caliber pistol with the bullets lacking sufficient mass and velocity to exit the distal side of the victim's body, but I would be surprised if many victims of small caliber non-headshot shootings drop dead without a twitch.

What is important is the motive behind the action as well as who were involved and for what real beliefs or false-flag reasons - NOT, IMO, the minute details of how a person did or could theoretically die. That is rather gruesome, and I think pointless in any deep political context. I'm interested to know more about this off-duty policeman's background, and expect there to be a lot of 'shadow and fog' surrounding him.

I'm with you on this Mr.Lemkin.

What occurs to me is how, at the point I signed-up to DPF, there would've been quite alot of interesting discussion & possible/potential background gubbins on this & from more than just a couple of ppl, & the Berlin lorry thing would've at least had a mention, and likewise would've had some discussion attached to it. Strange...

I'm not the kinda fella who's given to paranoia at all, but this Eter9 thing really does spring to mind, I mean, yer don't have to be dead, do you, & ppl can be quite gullible.