09-11-2016, 02:37 PM
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:Cliff Varnell Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote::hock:: ::face.palm::
Yes, I saw that too. My eyes watered.
You don't live here, you have no idea what this election was like to live thru.
Hillary's e-mails were obsessed over by the media and the Republican lies about them were never vetted, only repeated endlessly, relentlessly.
Cliff, in a strange way I think I can feel with you. The one thing I do not understand is your bringing up Putin. Do you really think that Russian government controlled hackers would just dump these emails to wikileaks, if they had them?
Thank you for the collegial reply, Carsten.
I think there would be plausible deniability, they dumped them to someone who dumped them to Wikileaks.
When Assange says the Russians didn't give them to him, I'm sure he's telling the truth.
Quote:I mean, they surely have them, but they would not use them in this way. And that it was so easy to get them is exactly the problem.
Hillary's private server was not in any way encrypted or otherwise secured and could have been hacked by any 14 year old script kiddie.
But there's no indication her server was hacked.
All of her e-mails came out thru the FBI.
Quote:Podesta's email password could be found by any automatic password searcher in under a second. And he even put it into a phishing website and did not change it immediately. What do you think happens, if you do that?
We find out that the Clintons sold access to Dow Chemical and Eleanor Clift likes walnuts in her salad.
Quote:But it is not about method, it is about content. When I learn that Hillary is fully aware about the Saudi-Quatar-Isis connection and still accepts money (for one of the biggest arms deals in history) from them, I find it disgusting, but not surprising.
I don't buy the claim that these arms deals were a quid pro quo for Clinton Foundation donations.
The US has been arming these scumbags for decades.
Didn't start with Clinton.
Quote:But I imagine, some American were surprised to learn that.
And that 650000 emails are found in a file called life-insurance (for whom?) on Weiner's PC just emphasizes that the content of these emails is somehow threatening to Hillary, even if corruption is commonplace and normal in politics.
No, those were not e-mails to or from Clinton and were duplicates the FBI had already examined.
Innocuous.
Comey knew this when he made his treasonous play 11 days out from the election.
Quote:This is beyond normal, beyond corrupt.
I am quite sure, Putin would have preferred to have this material against a sitting president and use it later, piece by piece.
Won't do him any good.
Trump always stabs his business partners in the back.
Putin will rue the day he weighed in for Trump.


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