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JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Brian Castle Wrote:Hi all, thank you for your replies.

Maybe I can be a little more specific about the question.

Here's the sitch - let's assume that PD Scott is right, and that Mt Weather was in use for emergency communications.

If that is the case, then there had to be a link to the ground in Dallas, whether direct or indirect.

There are only two obvious ways that link could have landed in Dallas - one is, through the White House Communications Agency, and the other is, through the Dallas Emergency Operations Center, which means the Civil Defense channels. The former, is related to "Continuity of Government", while the latter, is more related to "disaster management".

If we're to take Mr. PD Scott's statement literally, it would seem to indicate he has some evidence regarding the specific nature of the link, and that's what I'm asking about.

First of all, I've been able to find no evidence whatsoever as to whether the Dallas Emergency Operations Center was actually in use that day. Its Director was allegedly at a luncheon at the Adolphus Hotel just after the assassination, seen by dozens of people and etc. The other person who might have had the keys to that building is Boise B Smith. And a mysterious figure named Col John W Mayo, who appears to be one of these ultra-right-wing anti-communist types.

From what little I've been able to establish so far, the WHCA radios that Winston Lawson installed in the cars were all low power, they were for local use only. Allegedly, the SS had some kind of communication center set up at the Sheraton, and from what I can glean this was essentially the "mobile White House", involving at the time two PBX's and one radio transceiver. Since it would have been impossible to set up a kilowatt transmitter on the spot, the communications would then necessarily have had to flow through a regional relay point where they could in fact have a kilowatt transmitter and a very large antenna. Such a point might have been the Emergency Operations Center, but it also could have been one of the regional Defense facilities like the 112th MIG at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio.

I'm not aware that Mr. Scott understands how these relays took place, which is why I'm asking what he means by "almost directly". He says that like he knows something, but if he does he's not telling us. The PBX's were down for over an hour while they were trying to install an additional switch, and therefore any communication that might have taken place during that interval had to happen by radio. Which means, there had to be a kilowatt transmitter in play someplace. It might have been at Collins HQ in Cedar Rapids Iowa, but it still would have get to get from Dallas to there, over a secure channel or in a secure manner.

First, if you don't know what Peter Dale Scott means, I suggest you ask him. I think he is not hiding anything as you seem to think. I think his mention has no special nor hidden meaning.
Second, the Dallas Emergency Operations Center was not only in use that day, but was CENTRAL to the plot. A lot about who was where are just lies to cover-up what was really going on and who was really where.
Speculations as to strength of transmitters will get you no where, IMHO. Collins Radio was capable of making short range and trans-continental secure communications [as were others like them].
There are several threads on all this on this Forum, but the search function is poor and I haven't located them yet; best to try to find them using an outside search engine. I'm having trouble locating the plethora of information on this site related to the Operations center and Crichton specifically.....when I find it, will link to it....below are some things to think about in the meantime.
Jack Crichton was up to his hairline in the assassination - before and during; even after in getting Marina a 'bad' interpreter to purposely twist her words to fit the official version - but his main job, IMHO was communication and coordination.

Hi Peter, thank you so much for posting all that, it's a lot of information.

I would love to ask Peter Dale Scott, is he on this forum? I've never met the man, in no way would I accuse him of trying to hide anything. I'm just after source information, that's all. This is very important stuff IMO, it deserves to be fleshed out. I'd like to see the source info for what we know "today", and then I'm entirely certain if you give me a little time after that I can contribute some few things to the body of knowledge.

So then, I have seen claims (including yours above) that the Dallas EOC was in use that day, but I would like to see the actual source evidence backing up these claims. If I see that, then maybe I can find more of it. Looking at "claims" does me no good, my purpose is to dig up new information. I'm a researcher, I'm not here to argue about speculations. I'm here to dig up new material, and bounce if off y'all to see how it might fit in.

The issues about transmitter wattage and antenna sizes and so on, are "technical issues". Those kinds of things, hopefully, are like going down a checklist. Once you have your crime scene model you have to make sure you have the infrastructure to support it. So it would be like, "enough power? check. big enough antenna? check." that kind of thing.

One thing not mentioned in your posts, is that although Crichton himself was fairly wealthy, he lost a pile of money on the Cuban Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust deal, when Castro nationalized the foreign oil rights. Crichton was apparently running around talking this company up, it was started by William F Buckley Sr and Crichton was one of its evangelists to the Texas oil community, where they found many rich investors. The CVOVT was the hottest company on Wall Street at one point. Sometime in the late 50's they'd negotiated 13 million acres of drilling rights in Cuba, under Batista, and then one day Castro declared that no foreign venture could hold more than 20,000 acres. The company went belly-up and got de-listed and all the investors lost their money, and Crichton not only lost money but he lost face too. He must have been upset about it, I certainly would have been.

So... all these things are good, but we have to dig deeper. Really... we have to push on this. This is a vital area of investigation, and it needs more meat, more substance. Let me see if I can find those threads you speak of, they sound helpful.

Thanks again Peter. Really, I'm not here to challenge anyone, that's not my purpose. I'm with you on this (hopefully), trying to do research. Maybe I can bring a few things to the table, we'll see. If not and y'all are way ahead of me, I'll skedaddle and y'all can carry on.

Crichton's relationship with DH Byrd is one of the areas I'd like to explore. Not just that there "was one", but the specific nature of it. I'm also interested in Byrd's activities in support of the Civil Air Patrol. There's just not a whole lot of actual source information on this stuff. People write volumes about it 'cause... yeah... it could be big important stuff. But we have to dig a little deeper on this - for instance - Crichton states that he was at this luncheon at the Adolphus, and just before 12:30 he "walked over to Elm St" and saw Jackie close enough to see her "pill box hat"... well, if you look at the map, walking over from the Adolphus to Elm by the shortest path would put Crichton right at the corner of Houston and Elm. If he's telling the truth, then he ought to appear in a picture somewhere, shouldn't he?
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JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by O. Austrud - 15-10-2015, 09:02 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by Drew Phipps - 15-10-2015, 09:02 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by Tom Scully - 15-10-2015, 09:46 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by Drew Phipps - 19-10-2015, 12:52 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by Brian Castle - 20-10-2015, 05:16 AM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by R.K. Locke - 20-10-2015, 06:56 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by R.K. Locke - 21-10-2015, 07:22 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by R.K. Locke - 22-10-2015, 06:23 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by R.K. Locke - 27-10-2015, 08:01 PM
JFK, PD Scott, and Mount Weather - by R.K. Locke - 28-12-2015, 08:04 PM
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