You're tolerated... so I guess anything is possible.
yes Charles... you decided it was not No Name since you are NOT a botanist and can make a judgement based on out-of-focus plants which you know nothing about..... whatever.
I, on the other hand decided that No Name was more likely than anywhere else.... (btw, your repetitive reposting of my spelling error is childish, yet you persist. such insecurity is laughable)
why and how I come to this speculation is not anything I prefer to discuss with you at this point... given your initial response...
that you can't make those connections yourself speaks volumes, "bubby"
but if you'd like, and think you can.... prove me wrong.
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Didn't realize forum co-ownership give you the right to be an inconsiderate, intolerant a$$...
"third-rate agitator" :lol:
"If you aint one of us, you must be one of them"... right Charley.
How about taking stock of what you're really mad about....
Surely not some "third-rate agitator" with significantly more detailed knowledge of the case at his fingertips than you'll ever care to know making a speculative comment...
Quote:I wouldn't spend more than another 30 seconds on you.
Quote:I don't you need you to tell me ANYTHING about this case.
Remind you of anyone?
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
Gordon Gray Wrote:Sorry I said someplace like no name key. I shoulda said one of those Cuba exile training areas where Oswald was allegedly sighted, then maybe this pissing contest could have been avoided. I am merely wondering if this is the "Lee" of Lee and Harvey. Of all the pictures of LHO look alikes, this is one I could actually imagine mistaking for Oswald, if I only had a quick glance at him, like many witnesses did. BTW FWIW for budding botanists, here is a sample of the vegetation on No Name Key:
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Gordon... the issue is the man's demeanor... not the comment.
If he wanted to know why I believe No Name was more likely, ask like a human being.
No need to throw adhoms or the "holier-than-thou" attitude. and then maintain the "(sic)" crap as if he never once made an error in his life.
I've read enough of the threads here to know this is SOP for CD... Most of the time I pay no nevermind.... harmless rhetoric
His response bothered me.... and he doesn't even realize his presence squashes open discussion.
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That being said, thank you for bringing this interesting image to light, at least for me... and yes I believe 100% that is Oswald...
Which one is a matter of conjecture.
Peace
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
David Josephs Wrote:why and how I come to this speculation is not anything I prefer to discuss with you at this point... given your initial response...
that you can't make those connections yourself speaks volumes, "bubby"
but if you'd like, and think you can.... prove me wrong.
You're dumber than I thought.
I carry no burden of proof whatsoever in this matter.
You made the assertion. The burden is on you to support it.
But since you cannot support it, you stamp your little size 5 feet and squeal, in essence, "Charlie's a bully so I won't answer him."
Oooooooooh, I'm such a BITCH!
I ask you again:
Do you stand by your assertion that there is good reason (which you've yet to state) to conclude that the photo was taken at No Name Key "before anyting [sic] else"?
Because THAT is the question I originally raised, and THAT is the question you are dodging.
Answer the question. Share with us why the No Name Key identification should be accepted "before anyting [sic] else". Show us why you made that knee-jerk assertion.
Or go away.
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene
David Josephs Wrote:His response bothered me.... and he doesn't even realize his presence squashes open discussion.
That's "quashes."
Oh well ... I guess that's the difference between learning a language and picking it up.
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene
Gordon Gray Wrote:Sorry I said someplace like no name key. I shoulda said one of those Cuba exile training areas where Oswald was allegedly sighted, then maybe this pissing contest could have been avoided. I am merely wondering if this is the "Lee" of Lee and Harvey. Of all the pictures of LHO look alikes, this is one I could actually imagine mistaking for Oswald, if I only had a quick glance at him, like many witnesses did. BTW FWIW for budding botanists, here is a sample of the vegetation on No Name Key:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]4429[/ATTACH]
Gordon... the issue is the man's demeanor... not the comment.
If he wanted to know why I believe No Name was more likely, ask like a human being.
No need to throw adhoms or the "holier-than-thou" attitude. and then maintain the "(sic)" crap as if he never once made an error in his life.
I've read enough of the threads here to know this is SOP for CD... Most of the time I pay no nevermind.... harmless rhetoric
His response bothered me.... and he doesn't even realize his presence squashes open discussion.
--------------
That being said, thank you for bringing this interesting image to light, at least for me... and yes I believe 100% that is Oswald...
Which one is a matter of conjecture.
Peace
DJ
I would think this could be the Lee version of Oswald and it could be either the Phillipines, a training camp in Florida, or Lake Poncetrain, because of the vegetation and his fatigue pants. One thing that gives me pause, is if this is the same guy as the one in the clip with Marita and Sturgis, he is considerably taller than Sturgis(that is Sturgis playing with the gun, isn't it?). Lee was supposed to be a bit taller than Harvey IIRC, but not by that much.
Gordon Gray Wrote:Sorry I said someplace like no name key. I shoulda said one of those Cuba exile training areas where Oswald was allegedly sighted, then maybe this pissing contest could have been avoided. I am merely wondering if this is the "Lee" of Lee and Harvey. Of all the pictures of LHO look alikes, this is one I could actually imagine mistaking for Oswald, if I only had a quick glance at him, like many witnesses did. BTW FWIW for budding botanists, here is a sample of the vegetation on No Name Key:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]4429[/ATTACH]
Gordon... the issue is the man's demeanor... not the comment.
If he wanted to know why I believe No Name was more likely, ask like a human being.
No need to throw adhoms or the "holier-than-thou" attitude. and then maintain the "(sic)" crap as if he never once made an error in his life.
I've read enough of the threads here to know this is SOP for CD... Most of the time I pay no nevermind.... harmless rhetoric
His response bothered me.... and he doesn't even realize his presence squashes open discussion.
--------------
That being said, thank you for bringing this interesting image to light, at least for me... and yes I believe 100% that is Oswald...
Which one is a matter of conjecture.
Peace
DJ
I would think this could be the Lee version of Oswald and it could be either the Phillipines, a training camp in Florida, or Lake Poncetrain, because of the vegetation and his fatigue pants. One thing that gives me pause, is if this is the same guy as the one in the clip with Marita and Sturgis, he is considerably taller than Sturgis(that is Sturgis playing with the gun, isn't it?). Lee was supposed to be a bit taller than Harvey IIRC, but not by that much.
Agree... somewhat.
While the faces I posted were all of who we would consider to be HARVEY... the body size seems to be LEE. The man in the video with Sturgis does not look anything like the first guy... and he does indeed look much taller than Oswald would ever be... unless Sturgis was 5'7" or so.
His discharge puts him at 71".. 5'11"... while our little Harvey was no more than 5'8" at best.
Also attached a great image from John Woods showing the infamous Oswald in Japan photo....
Cheers
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
David Josephs Wrote:why and how I come to this speculation is not anything I prefer to discuss with you at this point... given your initial response...
that you can't make those connections yourself speaks volumes, "bubby"
but if you'd like, and think you can.... prove me wrong.
You're dumber than I thought.
I carry no burden of proof whatsoever in this matter.
You made the assertion. The burden is on you to support it.
But since you cannot support it, you stamp your little size 5 feet and squeal, in essence, "Charlie's a bully so I won't answer him."
Oooooooooh, I'm such a BITCH!
I ask you again:
Do you stand by your assertion that there is good reason (which you've yet to state) to conclude that the photo was taken at No Name Key "before anyting [sic] else"?
Because THAT is the question I originally raised, and THAT is the question you are dodging.
Answer the question. Share with us why the No Name Key identification should be accepted "before anyting [sic] else". Show us why you made that knee-jerk assertion.
Or go away.
{YAWN}
You're 30 seconds are up... and you have nothing to learn from me....
move along.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
Quote:Also attached a great image from John Woods showing the infamous Oswald in Japan photo....
About those two versions of the photo. The nose has been tampered with - it is not real looking and looks like no other 'Oswald' nose. The darkening of the eyes and mouth areas are easily done - for what purpose this and SO many other images of both Oswalds were played around with to make the 'many faces of Oswald'...is an interesting question! James Jesus likely know why [or knew who knew]....but he ain't talkin'.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
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"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
You're 30 seconds are up... and you have nothing to learn from me....
move along.
Your non-response is worthy of Fetzer.
Your tortured "logic" is worthy of "Doyle."
And now you reveal yourself to be a prevaricator and an intellectual coward.
You can run, little man, but you can't hide.
I ask you yet again:
Do you stand by your assertion that there is good reason (which you've yet to state) to conclude that the photo was taken at No Name Key "before anyting [sic] else"?
Because THAT is the question I originally raised, and THAT is the question you are dodging.
Answer the question. Share with us why the No Name Key identification should be accepted "before anyting [sic] else". Show us why you made that knee-jerk assertion.
The longer you hide and cower, the clearer your true nature becomes.
You made the assertion.
Defend it.
NO ONE has anything to learn from you because you have nothing to teach.
Answer the question.
Bueller ... Bueller ... Bueller ...
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene
So ya
Thought ya
Might like to
Go to the show.
To feel that warm
thrill of confusion,
That space cadet glow.
I've got some bad news for you sunshine,
Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel
And they sent us along as a surrogate band
We're gonna find out where you folks really stand.
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
