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Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Magda Hassan - 27-11-2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]5490[/ATTACH] http://spectregroup.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/4-banks.jpg Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Peter Lemkin - 27-11-2013 The bigger they get, the badder they get!.....just wait until there is only one! If when there were 10+ they were considered 'too big to fail'.....imagine the control and fail-proofness of 4...then one! It will own those who make the 'too big to fail' decisions...they already do! So, the average person, through their taxes, will pay via bailouts for the bank[s] gambling out of one pocket, while their other pocket is being picked by the banks directly via their policies on the 'front end' [banking fees, loans/mortgages, toxic assets on the exchanges etc.] Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - David Guyatt - 28-11-2013 More from The Slog on the latest RBS fraud... And no, no British banker is ever going to jail over this. It would't be "cricket" if they did. Quote: Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - David Guyatt - 02-12-2013 After the latest frauds at the RBS, namely purposely derailing business customers so the bank could get control of the assets at knock-down prices, plus a loss for the year to date of £5 billion ---- why wouldn't reward such farrago's with City large bonuses? Rewarding utter failure and mafia style crookedness is just in a days work for City banks. It's obscene. Worse, there are still no crooked bankers languishing in prison for any number of illegal activities. Quote: From The Slog. Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - David Guyatt - 04-12-2013 "Conspiracy" and "Conspiracy to defraud" others always used to be criminal offences, which if proved would result in prison time. Oops! Silly me. They still are criminal offences -- it's just that no one is applying the law these days. A slap in the wallet of bank shareholders - who coincidentally had little or nothing to do with the criminality - is considered a fair punishment. Dixon of Dock Green would turn in his grave... [quote] Banks braced for EU rate-fixing fines; Tesco sales slide - business live LIVEBrussels officials are poised to announce new fines against banks for conspiring to manipulate benchmark interest rates.
![]() 7.50am GMT Rate-rigging fines loom for banks Good morning, and welcome to our rolling coverage of events across the financial markets, the world economy, the eurozone and the business world. The banking sector is preparing face the music, again, over the global interest rate rigging scandal. The European Union is putting the finishing touches to big fines and charges involving as many as 10 leading financial institutions. Each company is accused of conspiring to fix the rates at which banks would lend to each other, either in euros (the Euribor rate) or yen (yenLibor, priced in London), or both. Brussels has also been probing the Tokyo rate known as Tibor. With the FT reckoning that banks could be fined a total of €800m for Euribor rigging, and again for yen, the total could break the previous record for anti-trust penalties of €1.5bn. Rumours from Brussels are that not every bank has reached a deal with the EU -- so we're likely to see a mixture of settlements and formal charges. An announcement from JoaquÃn Almunia, EU competition commissioner, is expected this morning, although all sides have been keeping quiet on the precise timing.... More details to follow... Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - David Guyatt - 05-12-2013 Here we go, £1.7 billion in fines for six firms PLUS another market currency (forex) market scandal (i.e., a fraud - the scandal is that it's not called what it really is by the media) in the pipeline. All this market rigging, all this fraud and criminality --- and yet, as I keep saying, still no criminal charges brought against the masters of the universe. Not so much a case of justice delayed, but rather justice ignored. Quote:Banks fined record €1.7bn over benchmark interest rate rigging cartel Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Peter Lemkin - 17-12-2013 Judge Blasts Feds for Failure to Go After Wall Street Fraudsters[TABLE="align: right"]
[TR] [TD="align: left"][/TD] [TD="align: left"][/TD] [TD="align: left"][/TD] [TD="align: left"][/TD] [TD="align: left"] [/TD] [TD="align: left"] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Posted on Dec 17, 2013Too big to jail, indeed.U.S. District Court Judge Jed S. Rakoff has written a scathing indictment of the federal government's approach to prosecuting Wall Street finance and banking executives, concluding that timidity, lack of resources, and a desire by individual prosecutors to pluck the low hanging fruit of fraud cases has left the country's top financial wheeler-dealers unscathed by the likely crimes that seized up the world economy. Particularly galling, Rakoff writes in The New York Review of Books, is the sense among Justice Department officials that some financial institutions are too big to be disciplined. "This excusesometimes labeled the too big to jail' excuseis disturbing, frankly, in what it says about the department's apparent disregard for equality under the law," wrote Rakoff, who previously rankled Justice officials and corporate executives by refusing to approve civil settlements over corporate wrongdoing that did not include an admission of guilt. And there likely were many crimes committed in the financial collapse. While pointedly saying he has no opinion on whether crimes occurred, Rakoff cites the findings of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission that fraud lurked behind the transactions that collapsed the economy. Yet U.S. Justice Department officials "have been more circumspect," and point to three factors in their decisions not to prosecute: Proving fraud is hard; the sophisticated buyers of ill-fated mortgage-backed securities should have known better; and that going after the crooks could destabilize the economy. From the article: Without multiplying examples further, my point is that the Department of Justice has never taken the position that all the top executives involved in the events leading up to the financial crisis were innocent; rather it has offered one or another excuse for not criminally prosecuting themexcuses that, on inspection, appear unconvincing. So, you might ask, what's really going on here? I don't claim to have any inside information about the real reasons why no such prosecutions have been brought, but I take the liberty of offering some speculations. So why no prosecutions? Rakoff blames it on shifted priorities after the Sept. 11 attacks, when the FBI's financial-frauds staff dropped from around 1,000 people to about 120; a decentralization of prosecutions to regional offices with insufficient expertise in the complex world of banking and finance and different priorities; the federal government's role in shoring up post-collapse banks and financial institutions blurred the lines; and a policy shift from prosecuting individuals in favor of corporations in the belief that it would be easier to change corporate culture.At the outset, however, let me say that I completely discount the argument sometimes made that no such prosecutions have been brought because the top prosecutors were often people who previously represented the financial institutions in question and/or were people who expected to be representing such institutions in the future: the so-called "revolving door." In my experience, most federal prosecutors, at every level, are seeking to make a name for themselves, and the best way to do that is by prosecuting some high-level person. While companies that are indicted almost always settle, individual defendants whose careers are at stake will often go to trial. And if the government wins such a trial, as it usually does, the prosecutor's reputation is made. My point is that whatever small influence the "revolving door" may have in discouraging certain white-collar prosecutions is more than offset, at least in the case of prosecuting high-level individuals, by the career-making benefits such prosecutions confer on the successful prosecutor. That last factor seems the most significant. An accused corporation can negotiate a settlement, pay a fine, promise not to sin again, then pass along the costs to consumers and shareholders and maybe fire a subordinate executive or two for public relations value. Meanwhile, the individuals responsibleor who most benefited from willful ignorancepay no penalty for their crimes. I suggest that this is not the best way to proceed. Although it is supposedly justified because it prevents future crimes, I suggest that the future deterrent value of successfully prosecuting individuals far outweighs the prophylactic benefits of imposing internal compliance measures that are often little more than window-dressing. Just going after the company is also both technically and morally suspect. It is technically suspect because, under the law, you should not indict or threaten to indict a company unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that some managerial agent of the company committed the alleged crime; and if you can prove that, why not indict the manager? And from a moral standpoint, punishing a company and its many innocent employees and shareholders for the crimes committed by some unprosecuted individuals seems contrary to elementary notions of moral responsibility. It's a significant argument Rakoff makes. The New York Times "Sidebar" columnist Adam Liptak said Rakoff accused the government of failing "in its rudimentary responsibilities, offering excuses instead of action." He asked Rakoff what prompted the essay, an unusual step for a sitting judge.These criticisms take on special relevance, however, in the instance of investigations growing out of the financial crisis, because, as noted, the Department of Justice's position, until at least recently, is that going after the suspect institutions poses too great a risk to the nation's economic recovery. So you don't go after the companies, at least not criminally, because they are too big to jail; and you don't go after the individuals, because that would involve the kind of years-long investigations that you no longer have the experience or the resources to pursue. "As a judge, I got to see many cases that grew out of the financial crisis and to see situations that gave me pause," he said. "When I added my own background as both a prosecutor and defense counsel, I was struck by how things were proceeding in a different way than they had in the past. One hopes his fellow citizensespecially those in charge of regulating the financial world and prosecuting its criminalspays attention."That caused me to think about it more than I otherwise would have," he said, "and I thought my views as a citizen might commend themselves to others." Posted by Scott Martelle. Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - David Guyatt - 18-12-2013 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Judge Blasts Feds for Failure to Go After Wall Street Fraudsters For me, most of those reasons given by the judge for not prosecuting financial bigwigs are nonsense. The real and only reason is their power. Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Peter Lemkin - 12-01-2014 Now We Know: JPMorgan Chase Is Worse Than EnronSaturday, 11 January 2014 09:12 By Richard Eskow![]() It's beginning to look as if JPMorgan Chase has had a hand in every major banking scandal of the last decade. In fact, it's the Zelig of Wall Street crime. Take a snapshot of any major bank fraud and chances are you'll see JPMorgan Chase staring out at you from the frame. Foreclosure fraud, investor fraud, cheating customers, market manipulation, LIBOR … and now, the coup de grâce to JPM's tattered reputation: a $2 billion fine for closing its eyes and covering up as Bernie Madoff literally bilked widows and orphans, along with a lot of other families and charities. (Here's a list of investors.) Does Jamie Dimon, the bank's CEO, still think people don't say enough nice things about him? Do his friends? More importantly, how does the largest bank in the country (measured in assets) get away with being worse than Enron? That one's easy: By being the largest bank in the country. Guilty as Sin JPMorgan Chase was hit with a "deferred prosecution agreement" for criminal behavior in this latest settlement, which basically means they won't be prosecuted as long as they honor the agreement and keep admitting to their own wrongdoing. As the New York Times notes, this kind of arrangement is "nearly unheard-of for a giant American bank," is "typically employed only when misconduct is extreme," and "underscores the magnitude of the case against JPMorgan." According to publicly available information, the case against JPMorgan Chase is extremely damning. Even after highly suspicious facts came to light about the Madoff operation, JPM continued to package and sell Madoff-fed funds to its customers. It failed to report him to the authorities even after concluding that he was engaged in massive fraud. No wonder JPM tried to block investigators from probing its handling of the Madoff account. According to Newsweek, the Justice Department even shielded the bank from obstruction charges. Worse Than Enron There's no question about it: JPMorgan Chase is worse than Enron. It's true that Enron's energy market manipulations were horrible. Enron executives and employees deprived people of their life savings, drove up the price of a vital public utility, and concealed their crimes with all the wiliness of history's worst master conspirators. But JPMorgan Chase did everything Enron did and much, much more. Consider: A few weeks ago JPM paid $13 billion to settle well-documented charges of massive and widespread foreclosure fraud. Although that was the largest fine paid by a corporation in American history, there's a compelling argument that it should have been larger as much as 22 times larger. JPM paid $296.9 million for lying to investors about the payment status and hence, the investment quality of its mortgage-backed securities. JPM paid more than a third of a billion dollars to settle charges that it bilked customers by charging them for credit monitoring services it never provided. JPM agreed to pay between $1.8 billion and $4.5 billion, depending on how you tally the cost, for illegally foreclosing on American families and throwing them out of their homes. JPM paid another $56 million for cheating active-duty service members and their families, and for illegally foreclosing on them as well. JPM paid $228 million for rigging the bidding for 93 municipal bond transactions in 31 states. (You know those cities that supposedly can't honor their pension agreements with retired workers? That's the kind of client they cheated here.) JPM paid $410 million to settle charges related to its rigging of electricity prices, which is what Enron did. JPM has paid multiple fines and settlements over the "London whale" case, in which traders sought to manipulate market prices, engaged in unlawful "reckless conduct" (while CEO Dimon bragged about the bank's risk management and "fortress balance sheet"), then unlawfully concealed their behavior. There is no evidence that any investigation sought to determine how high the cover-up went. We do know that Dimon told investors the case was "a tempest in a teapot" after privately being told that losses were running in the billions. JPM paid $1.2 billion for colluding with credit card companies and other institutions to rig merchants' credit prices. JPM has paid two major fines for illegally investing with customers' money. Den of Thieves All in all, JPMorgan Chase has paid $20 billion in fines in the last year alone. But none of these fines were personally charged to the executives who committed the crimes. Instead, they were paid by shareholders some of whom were also bilked by the executives in question. What's more, most (if not all) of these fines are tax-deductible. That means that taxpayers will take a hit for JPM's criminality. Even the Enron guys didn't think of that. Do some good people work at JPMorgan Chase? Of course. I have a couple friends there myself, and they're honorable people. But they're living in a nest of fraudsters. Either CEO Dimon thinks that's just fine, or he's not competent enough to clean the place out and should be fired forthwith. It's Who You Know … How does the JPM Gang get away with all of this fraud? One simple answer is: Access. Political access. Even Bernie Madoff had it. The Madoff family was heavily involved in SIFMA, the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association, a trade group with deep Washington DC connections. (Madoff's brother Peter was honored by SIFMA in 2006.) Dimon's DC connections, of course, are the stuff of legend. They extend to members of both parties. Until scandal completely scarred the bank's reputation, Dimon was routinely referred to as "the President's favorite banker." And as a high-powered Wall Street lawyer, Attorney General Eric Holder undoubtedly crossed paths with Dimon many times. Our leaders insist that those personal connections carry no weight in their decision-making process. People are free to form their own opinions about that. The argument is also made, as the Attorney General did in a rare moment of candor, that some banks can't be indicted because that would put them in danger which, in turn, would pose a systemic risk to the global economy. And yet nobody in the Administration is claiming that this is a problem, much less proposing solutions. Solutions are available: the breakup of systemically risky institutions or the indictment of individuals and not of institutions. Unfortunately, nobody in the government seems very interested in solutions. They just keep making these deals, even when the malefactors involved are much, much worse than Enron. Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - David Guyatt - 13-01-2014 My two pence worth is that the whole Madoff story has been unreported and massively inaccurate in that reporting. It's a case of the old "lone banker" all over again, when it was even obvious from the dearth of proper reporting that all sorts of major banks, not just JPMorganChase, participated in full knowledge of what was really going on. On the other matters, this story simply reinforces the view that it is the intrinsic power of major banks to avoid criminal prosecution by paying fines. This doesn't hurt those executives who are responsible for the illegalities, as it's not their money they're playing with anyway. And besides this few execs are ever forced to leave the bank as a consequence, or even miss out on their bonuses. I liken this non-punishment punishment to the historic "whipping boy" - who always was a close boyhood friend of a son of a blue-blooded family. If the family son did something that was sufficiently wrong to deserve punishment, it was the boys friend who was whipped and beaten in his place - as noble blood could not be touched. One can immediately see how power complexes would arise because of this bollocks attitude. And so it with bank today. They are free of blame or punishment. |