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Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Jan Klimkowski - 09-08-2011 So, the Fed pledges low US interest rates for two years: Quote:Federal Reserve pledges to keep interest rates low for two years Prompting Market Ticker's Karl Denninger to write (with charts here): Quote:Bernanke Calls Deflationary Depression Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Jan Klimkowski - 18-08-2011 The Swiss National Bank needed an emergency swap line of $200 million. If the Gnomes of Zurich, with their code of Omerta for Moneylaunderers, are tapped out, then the market tickers of global market capitalism are a work of pure fiction. Quote:Cue Panic As Fed Resumes Liquidity Swap Lines, Lends $200 Million To Swiss National Bank, Most Since October 2010 Meanwhile Credit Agricole and Deutsche Bank are toast, and Canada is next in the sights of the speculators who took down Italy and are gunning for France. Quote:Is The Next Domino To Fall.... Canada? Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Jan Klimkowski - 05-09-2011 European markets have suffered massive (c4-5%) losses today. The next domino to fall may be Belgium. From Zero Hedge: Quote:BIG PIS: The CEO Of Europe's Most Troubled Bank, Dexia, Quits As Contagion Tsunami Sweeps Over Belgium Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Jan Klimkowski - 05-09-2011 There may be some more games, but I agree with Market Ticker's Denninger that the bell has tolled loud and clear: Quote:It's Over Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Jan Klimkowski - 05-09-2011 Monty Python Bring out your Dead. Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Jan Klimkowski - 06-09-2011 The Swiss just destroyed traders with leverage on the "wrong" side of FX speculation. The comments at Market Ticker are worth perusing, since some of the posters are active traders: Quote:Swiss Central Bank Detonates FX Traders Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Ed Jewett - 07-09-2011 20 Quotes From European Leaders That Prove That They Know That The Financial System In Europe Is Doomed September 7th, 2011 Via: Economic Collapse Blog: (See below) The financial crisis in Europe has become so severe that it has put the future of the euro, and indeed the future of the EU itself, in doubt. If the financial system in Europe collapses, it is going to plunge the entire globe into chaos. … If we see nations such as Greece, Portugal and Italy start to default, we could have quite a few major European banks go down in rapid succession. That could be the "tipping point" that sets off mass financial panic around the globe. Of course the governments of Europe would probably step in to bail out many of those banks, but when the U.S. did something similar back in 2008 that didn't prevent the world from plunging into a horrible worldwide recession. Right now, the way that the monetary union is structured in Europe simply does not work. Countries that are deep in debt have no flexibility in dealing with those debts, and citizens of wealthy countries such as Germany are becoming deeply resentful that they must keep shoveling money into the financial black holes of southern Europe. These bailouts cannot go on indefinitely. Political and financial authorities all over Europe know this and they also know that Europe is rapidly heading toward a day of reckoning. The quotes that you are about to read are absolutely shocking. In Europe they openly admit that the financial system is dying, that the euro is in danger of not surviving and that the EU does not work in its present form. Posted in Collapse, Dictatorship, Economy, Elite http://cryptogon.com/?p=24748 **** "The financial crisis in Europe has become so severe that it has put the future of the euro, and indeed the future of the EU itself, in doubt. If the financial system in Europe collapses, it is going to plunge the entire globe into chaos. The EU has a larger economy and a larger population than the United States does. The EU also has more Fortune 500 companies that the United States does. If the financial system in Europe breaks down, we are all doomed. An economic collapse in Europe would unleash a financial tsunami that would sweep across the globe. As I wrote about yesterday, the nightmarish sovereign debt crisis in Europe could potentially bring about the end of the euro. The future of the monetary union in Europe is being questioned all over the continent. Without massive bailouts, there are at least 5 or 6 nations in Europe that will likely soon default. The political will for continued bailouts is rapidly failing in northern Europe, so something needs to be done quickly to avert disaster. Unfortunately, as anyone that has ever lived in Europe knows, things tend to move very, very slowly in Europe. If the bailouts end and Europe is not able to come up with another plan before then, mass chaos is going to unleashed. Most major European banks are massively exposed to European sovereign debt, and most of them are also very, very highly leveraged. If we see nations such as Greece, Portugal and Italy start to default, we could have quite a few major European banks go down in rapid succession. That could be the "tipping point" that sets off mass financial panic around the globe. Of course the governments of Europe would probably step in to bail out many of those banks, but when the U.S. did something similar back in 2008 that didn't prevent the world from plunging into a horrible worldwide recession. Right now, the way that the monetary union is structured in Europe simply does not work. Countries that are deep in debt have no flexibility in dealing with those debts, and citizens of wealthy countries such as Germany are becoming deeply resentful that they must keep shoveling money into the financial black holes of southern Europe. These bailouts cannot go on indefinitely. Political and financial authorities all over Europe know this and they also know that Europe is rapidly heading toward a day of reckoning. The quotes that you are about to read are absolutely shocking. In Europe they openly admit that the financial system is dying, that the euro is in danger of not surviving and that the EU does not work in its present form. The following are 20 quotes from European leaders that prove that they know that the financial system in Europe is doomed.... #1 Polish finance minister Jacek Rostowski: "European elites, including German elites, must decide if they want the euro to survive - even at a high price - or not. If not, we should prepare for a controlled dismantling of the currency zone." #2 Stephane Deo, Paul Donovan, and Larry Hatheway of Swiss banking giant UBS: "Under the current structure and with the current membership, the euro does not work. Either the current structure will have to change, or the current membership will have to change." #3 EU President Herman Van Rompuy: "The euro has never had the infrastructure that it requires." #4 German President Christian Wulff: "I regard the huge buy-up of bonds of individual states by the ECB as legally and politically questionable. Article 123 of the Treaty on the EU's workings prohibits the ECB from directly purchasing debt instruments, in order to safeguard the central bank's independence" #5 Deutsche Bank CEO Josef Ackerman: "It is an open secret that numerous European banks would not survive having to revalue sovereign debt held on the banking book at market levels." #6 ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet: "We are experiencing very demanding times" #7 International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde: "Developments this summer have indicated we are in a dangerous new phase" #8 Prince Hermann Otto zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich, the Bundestag's Deputy President: "We must consider whether it would not be better for the currency union and for Greece itself to go for debt restructuring and an exit from the euro" #9 Alastair Newton, a strategist for Nomura Securities in London: "We believe that we are just about to enter a critical period for the eurozone and that the threat of some sort of break-up between now and year-end is greater than it has been at any time since the start of the crisis" #10 Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder: "The current crisis makes it relentlessly clear that we cannot have a common currency zone without a common fiscal, economic and social policy" #11 Bank of England Governor Mervyn King: "Dealing with a banking crisis was difficult enough, but at least there were public-sector balance sheets on to which the problems could be moved. Once you move into sovereign debt, there is no answer; there's no backstop." #12 George Soros: "We are on the verge of an economic collapse which starts, let's say, in Greece. The financial system remains extremely vulnerable." #13 German Chancellor Angela Merkel: "The current crisis facing the euro is the biggest test Europe has faced for decades, even since the Treaty of Rome was signed in 1957." #14 Stephane Deo, Paul Donovan, and Larry Hatheway of Swiss banking giant UBS: "Member states would be economically better off if they had never joined. European monetary union was generally mis-sold to the population of the Europe." #15 Professor Giacomo Vaciago of Milan's Catholic University: "It's clear that the euro has virtually failed over the last ten years, even if you are not supposed to say that." #16 EU President Herman Van Rompuy: "We're in a survival crisis. We all have to work together in order to survive with the euro zone, because if we don't survive with the euro zone we will not survive with the European Union." #17 German Chancellor Angela Merkel: "If the euro fails, then Europe fails." #18 Deutsche Bank CEO Josef Ackerman: "All this reminds one of the autumn of 2008" #19 International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde: "There has been a clear crisis of confidence that has seriously aggravated the situation. Measures need to be taken to ensure that this vicious circle is broken" #20 German Chancellor Angela Merkel: "The euro is in danger ... If we don't deal with this danger, then the consequences for us in Europe are incalculable." Most of the individuals quoted above desperately want to save the euro. They are not going to go down without a fight. The overwhelming consensus among the political and financial elite in Europe is that increased European integration in Europe is the answer. For example, EU President Herman Van Rompuy is very clear about what he believes the final result of this crisis will be.... "This crisis in the euro zone will strengthen European integration. That is my firm belief." Many of the elite in Europe are now openly talking about the need for a "United States of Europe". Just consider what former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder recently had to say.... "From the European Commission, we should make a government which would be supervised by the European Parliament. And that means the United States of Europe." But as mentioned above, things in Europe tend to move very, very slowly. The debt crisis in Europe is rapidly coming to a breaking point, and it is very doubtful that Europe will be able to move fast enough to head it off. What we may actually see is at least a partial collapse of the euro and a massive financial crisis in Europe first, and then much deeper European integration being sold by authorities in Europe as "the solution" to the crisis. This would be yet another example of the classic problem/reaction/solution paradigm. The "problem" would be a horrible financial crisis and economic downturn in Europe. The "reaction" would be a cry from the European public for someone to "fix" things and return things back to "normal". The "solution" would be a "United States of Europe" with much deeper economic and political integration which is something that many among the political and financial elite of Europe have wanted for a long, long time. Right now, the people of Europe are very much opposed to deeper economic and political integration. For example, 76 percent of Germans says that they have little or no faith in the euro and one recent poll found that German voters are against the introduction of "Eurobonds" by about a 5 to 1 margin. It looks like it may take a major crisis in order to get the people of Europe to change their minds. Unfortunately, it looks like that may be exactly what is going to happen." http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/20-quotes-from-european-leaders-that-prove-that-they-know-that-the-financial-system-in-europe-is-doomed Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Keith Millea - 08-09-2011 September 7, 2011 ![]() The Big Fire Sale EuroZone Deathwatch by MIKE WHITNEY There's no way to overstate the calamity that's unfolding across the Atlantic. The eurozone is imploding. The smart money has already fled EU banks for safe quarters in the US while political leaders frantically look for a way to prevent a seemingly-unavoidable meltdown. Here's an excerpt from a post at The Streetlight blog that explains what's going on: "…ECB data seems to indicate that monetary financial institutions (MFIs) in Europe have been moving their deposits out of European banks. Where is that money going?…. The eurozone is experiencing a slow-motion run on its banking system. Andwhile the ECB's emergency loans and other commitments have kept the panic from spreading to households and other retail customersthe big money continues to flee as leaders of large financial institutions realize that a political solution to the monetary union's troubles is still out-of-reach.European banks are shifting their cash assets out of European banks and putting much of them into US banks…. This has happened at a significant rate, with a net transatlantic flow from European to US banks that probably totals close to half a trillion dollars in just six months." ("Europe's Banking System: The Transatlantic Cash Flow", The Streetlight blog) The spreads on Spanish and Italian sovereign bonds have risen to nosebleed levels while the interest rate on the Greek 1-year bond has topped 70 percent, a tacit admission that Greece has lost access to the capital markets and will default despite the persistent efforts of the IMF and ECB. At the same time, overnight deposits at the European Central Bank (ECB) continue to rise as jittery bankers stash billions at the "risk free" facility. According to the Wall Street Journal: "Banks deposited €166.85 billion ($235.23 billion) at the ECB, the central bank said Tuesday, up from the previous 2011 peak of €151.1 billion recorded Friday, and the highest since €172.09 billion recorded Aug. 9 2010." This is yet another sign that nerves are on-edge and that banks are preparing for the worst. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been stalled in her attempt to push through changes to the European Financial Security Facility (EFSF) that would allow it's governors to use billions in emergency funds to bail out underwater EU banks that made bad bets on sovereign bonds. The German parliament (Bundestag) will vote on the issue on September 23 with the future of the 17-member monetary union hanging in the balance. If the EFSF is not given the "expanded powers" it seeks, then investors will ditch their bank shares and the markets will plunge. Political developments in Germany will determine whether the eurozone has a future or not. This is from Reuters: "Funding market tensions have triggered emergency measures at European banks, with some firms now dumping assets at the fastest rate since the collapse of Lehman Brothers as they seek to build up stockpiles of cash and reduce their reliance on short-term borrowings. It's a firesale, and it's getting worse. The banks have already jettisoned their good assets and are now left with the toxic dreck that will fetch only a fraction of their original cost. As the bank run accelerates, the need for cash will increase forcing the ECB to either dig deeper or let the financial system crash.Nervy lenders have sold off billions of euros of "good assets" since the start of August, according to treasurers and business heads overseeing such sales, with some firms also halting new loans to large corporate clients in an effort to preserve cash. Such a defensive response to the enfolding funding crisis in Europe is the clearest sign yet that credit market tensions whether rooted in truth or unwarranted investor panic pose an increasing threat to the global economic recovery, potentially choking off credit to critical engines of growth." ("Banks dump assets as funding worries intensify", Reuters) EU leaders have frittered away an entire year while sparks on the periphery turned into full-blown firestorm. Now the inferno has spread to the core and policymakers still can't settle on a course of action. This is policy paralysis at its worst. The problem is political not economic. Eurozone leaders are being asked to create a fiscal union with powers that surpass those of the individual states, a United States of Europe. But the groundwork has not been done to engage the public or build consensus, which is why the ECB continues to rely on half-measures and band-aid solutions like emergency loans and bond purchasing programs. Now investors have seen through the ruse and are demanding swift action or they'll send the markets into freefall. So, time is of the essence, which is why the eurozone's chances for survival are so slim. Mike Whitney lives in Washington state. He can be reached atfergiewhitney@msn.net http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/07/eurozone-deathwatch/ Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Peter Lemkin - 08-09-2011 Yup, the whole world economy will shortly collapse...but the ultra rich have physical assets that never loose value..in fact..increase in value at such times...gold, diamonds, oil, drugs, et al..... got yours?! - if not, like me you're screwed! :banghead: :wavey: :poketongue:
Defaulting banks - where will it stop? - Greg Burnham - 23-09-2011 by Anthony Hall [UPI]: It was all of 18 weeks ago the U.S. economic recovery looked at least semi-solid -- but with reports trickling in that hinted of a backslide.
That would be way back in late April, with the Dow Jones industrial average closing at 12,810 points. This week, having spent January through July ahead for the year, the DJIA skidded off September's high above 11,500 to a low of 10,733, triggering renewed talk of a second global recession. Back in May, manufacturing reports kicked it off. In New York and Philadelphia, there were signs of manufacturing gains flat-lining. The housing market, an economic cornerstone, was not helping. The trade gap indicated the United States was more broke at the end of each month than at the start, to the tune of $50 billion or so per month. Then, job gains promising for four months, hovering just above a break-even point, started to flat-line as well. Trouble was on the way. How quickly did that trade deficit number enter one ear and exit the other? Even under debate in jaded Washington, $50 billion would turn a few heads. It happens to be five Environmental Protection Agencies paid for in one month with a little left over -- a Congressional Budget Office, perhaps. It is almost the size of the Department of Transportation's annual budget, which hovers between $70 billion and $75 billion. What could New Jersey do with $50 billion -- or California? Here's something funny: $50 billion in North Dakota? Funny, right? What would Miami do with $50 billion? How about Minneapolis? How about handing it to Montpelier, Vt.? How absurd is that? How about giving it to another country? Each month, the United States hands the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries roughly $12 billion. The trade deficit with China lately hovers between $25 billion and $30 billion. How many jobs is that? Currently, it would seem out of place to revisit President Barack Obama's pledge to double the size of U.S. exports within the next five years given the problems everywhere else. On the other hand, as overly simplistic as this sounds, isn't $50 billion each month at least the start of a solid jobs program? And one that is tax-free, to boot? In international markets Friday, sharp losses from the past two trading sessions moderated in most markets. The Nikkei 225 index in Japan lost 2.07 percent and the Shanghai composite index in China fell 0.41 percent. The Hang Seng index in Hong Kong lost 1.36 percent and the Sensex in India dropped 1.22 percent. In Australia, the SP/ASX 200 index lost 1.56 percent. In midday trading in Europe, the FTSE 100 index in Britain gave up 0.32 percent, while the DAX 30 in Germany shed 1.92 percent. The CAC 40 in France lost 1.69 percent and the Stoxx Europe 600 index lost 1.18 percent. ANTHONY HALL || United Press International (Source: UPI ) (Source: Quotemedia) |