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Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Linda Minor - 04-12-2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley In 1979 Monckton met Alfred Sherman, who co-founded the pro-Conservative think tank the Centre for Policy Studies with Margaret Thatcher and Keith Joseph in 1974. Sherman asked Monckton to take the minutes at the CPS's study group meetings.[2] Monckton subsequently became the secretary for the centre's economic, forward strategy, health and employment study groups.[3] He wrote a paper on the privatisation of council housing by means of a rent-to-mortgages scheme that brought him to the attention of Downing Street.[2] Ferdinand Mount, the head of the Number 10 Policy Unit and a former CPS director, brought Monckton into the Policy Unit in 1982, where he worked until 1986 as a special advisor on economic matters.... Monckton is a member of the Worshipful Company of Broderers, an Officer of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, a Knight of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and a member of the Roman Catholic Mass Media Commission. He is also a qualified Day Skipper with the Royal Yachting Association, and has been a Trustee of the Hales Trophy for the Blue Riband of the Atlantic since 1986. Monckton is critical of the theory of anthropogenic causes for climate change and the stated scope of it, which he regards as a controversy catalyzed by "the need of the international left for a new flag to rally round" following the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.[8] He has expressed doubt about the reality of global warming in a number of newspaper articles and papers. He has been described in some quarters as a "former science adviser to British prime minister Margaret Thatcher and a world-renowned scholar."[9] However, his credentials as a commentator on climate change have been questioned by some commentators. James Hoggan and Richard Littlemore note in their book Climate Cover-Up: The Crusade to Deny Global Warming that Monckton has "no training whatsoever in science", and criticize his asserted credentials as "unfounded self-promotion."[10] The Daily Telegraph has described him as "a former economic adviser".[4] In two Sunday Telegraph articles published in November 2006, Monckton disputed whether global warming is man-made, suggested that it is unlikely to prove catastrophic, and criticized the science presented by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). In particular, he has criticized the IPCC's interpretation of the Medieval Warm Period, cited the "hockey stick" controversy as evidence of faulty science, argued that the science in the IPCC reports has misapplied the Stefan–Boltzmann law, and supported the solar variation theory as a possible explanation of global warming. In an apparent reference to claims made by Gavin Menzies, he further stated "There was little ice at the North Pole: a Chinese naval squadron sailed right round the Arctic in 1421 and found none."[11] The British writer and environmentalist George Monbiot has criticized Monckton's arguments, labelling them "cherry-picking, downright misrepresentation and pseudo-scientific gibberish."[12] In response, Monckton argued that he "got the science right", claiming that Monbiot got "too many facts wrong" and had shown "ignorance of the elementary physics".[13] In response to the U.K. government's Stern Review on the Economics of Climate Change, he has argued that the review's recommendation to invest 1% of global GDP in climate change mitigation would be ineffective, as would the introduction of carbon taxes and emissions trading as a means of curbing carbon emissions. He has proposed instead that the best solution should be to "go nuclear and reverse 20th-century deforestation."[14] In February 2007, he published a critique of the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report on climate change.[15] His calculations of climate sensitivity to increased atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide have been published in the Quarterly Economic Bulletin.[16] Monckton played a key role in a legal challenge heard in the High Court of Justice in October 2007 in a bid to prevent An Inconvenient Truth from being shown in English schools. In an interview with the conservative American talk radio host Glenn Beck, Monckton stated that he had prompted an unnamed friend to fund the case "to fight back against this tide of unscientific freedom-destroying nonsense" and had played a direct role in the litigation against the British government.[17] He was also reported to have funded the distribution to schools of the controversial documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle as a riposte to Gore's film.[18] In March 2007, Monckton ran a series of advertisements in The New York Times and Washington Post challenging Al Gore to an internationally televised debate on climate change. The former U.S. Vice President did not respond.[8][19] The Science and Public Policy Institute provided funding for Monckton to produce a response to An Inconvenient Truth, titled Apocalypse?, No!, described as "showing Monckton presenting a slide show in a vitriolic attack on climate change science."[18] The film includes footage of Monckton giving a Gore-style presentation given on 8 October 2007 at the Cambridge Union in which he asserted that Gore and the IPCC had systematically falsified and exaggerated the evidence for global warming.[18][20] During the autumn of 2009, Monckton embarked on a tour of North America to campaign against the December 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference. His warning that US President Barack Obama intended to sign a treaty at the conference which would "impose a communist world government on the world" was picked up by numerous commentators on the American right and "rocketed around the fringe" of right-wing websites, prompting Glenn Beck to invite him on his radio show again. Writing in Salon, Alex Koppelman criticized Monckton's assertions about the conference's framework for negotiation as being "woefully inaccurate. And that's a nice way of putting it." [21][22] The St. Petersburg Times's PolitiFact.com described his assertions as "not only unsupported but preposterous" and awarded him a special rating of "britches on fire".[23] Ethan Baron of the Canadian newspaper The Province criticized Monckton's assertions as the product of a "whacked-out, far-right ideology, combined with an ego the size of the Antarctic ice sheet."[24] Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Linda Minor - 04-12-2009 In my opinion the climate debate is one being waged by bankers--one side promoting coal, fossil fuels and other methods of infrastructure which have been linked to a distribution of utilities network that they financed over a period of decades beginning in the 1930's. The other side attempting to create a new infrastructure that could finance "green" industrial distribution--such as solar and wind power. In order to build such a system, there must be adequate demand and a means of paying for the research necessary to build the international distribution network. That takes money. In many ways, scientists are just sophists, who argue for the side which signs their paychecks. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf The gallant whistleblower now faces a police investigation at the instigation of the University authorities desperate to look after their own and to divert allegations of criminality elsewhere. His crime? He had revealed what many had long suspected:
Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - David Guyatt - 04-12-2009 Linda Minor Wrote:In my opinion the climate debate is one being waged by bankers--one side promoting coal, fossil fuels and other methods of infrastructure which have been linked to a distribution of utilities network that they financed over a period of decades beginning in the 1930's. The other side attempting to create a new infrastructure that could finance "green" industrial distribution--such as solar and wind power. In order to build such a system, there must be adequate demand and a means of paying for the research necessary to build the international distribution network. That takes money. In many ways, scientists are just sophists, who argue for the side which signs their paychecks. Always follow the money eh, Linda. I think you're on the right track. Green issues have come to the fore as a result of intense media coverage and it, therefore, stands to reason (knowing what we do know of the MSM) that it is serving someone's purpose. And that someone ain't us plebs or Gaiea. Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Helen Reyes - 04-12-2009 Linda Minor Wrote:In my opinion the climate debate is one being waged by bankers--one side promoting coal, fossil fuels and other methods of infrastructure which have been linked to a distribution of utilities network that they financed over a period of decades beginning in the 1930's. The other side attempting to create a new infrastructure that could finance "green" industrial distribution--such as solar and wind power. In order to build such a system, there must be adequate demand and a means of paying for the research necessary to build the international distribution network. That takes money. In many ways, scientists are just sophists, who argue for the side which signs their paychecks. That would seem to be the logical way of looking at it, as old guard "dirty" fuel companies protecting the status quo against innovators with "green" fuel, except that it doesn't seem to be true. I made the same assumption and this is the major talking point of AGW proponents, that critics are being financed by Big Oil. But Shell and BP at least are for international measures against AGW, i.e. carbon trading credit markets, derivatives, etc. Look at email 0894639050.txt in the leaked documents under FOI2009\mail\ (I'm leaving most of the addresses legible because they matter, but adding *'s where possible to keeop bots from harvesting them): Quote:From: Ged.R.Davis@si.simis.co* I don't remember the exact ownership of Royal Dutch Shell, but I believe Beatrix and QE2 own major portions (I could be quite wrong). Both monarchs appear to be in favor of a treaty coming out of COP13 or whatever they're calling Copenhagen IPCC officially. The other point is that the innovators aren't offering any energy products. There is no replacement for oil in their plans, just vague talk of new green technologies. Denmark has made some money off freon-free refrigerators in the past and is doing work with marine wind mills, but first, windmills to generate electricty are never cost-effective, they always take more energy to produce than they ever give back over their working lives, and second, this is a drop in the bucket at best. The thing is I agree with Linda Major that they are trying to sell something, I just don't think it's tangible, it's carbon-based derivatives and debt swaps, so to speak. I sense the ultimate goal is something like the Khmer Rouge vision of a return to some idyll of medieval agrarian society, a kind of micromanaged command economy with people on a sort of biospere Indian reservation (although the true believers and activists haven't caught whiff of the naked lunch on the end of the fork yet) being driven by an oligarchy of corporate interests using social and peer pressure, slogans and conformism, imho. "There is no scientific debate," "the science is settled," "no serious scholars dispute" AGW, "save the Earth," "your grandchildren will blame you," etc. It wouldn't be the first time that's worked for a time, anyway. Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Jan Klimkowski - 04-12-2009 The advert is very emotive - a father reading his daughter a fairy tale where the Wicked Witch is man made Global Warming - and can be seen at the url (the second, lower, video link on the page): http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/government+forced+to+defend+climate+change+advert/3450237 Quote:Government forced to defend climate change advert Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Magda Hassan - 05-12-2009 Helen Reyes Wrote:BP are really big in the solar area http://www.bp.com/genericcountryjump.do?categoryId=9070&contentId=7038143. All of these companies are just looking to make money - period. Any way they can. There is money in oil. There is money in solar energy distribution and manufacture. There is money in carbon trading. Really big money in fact. It isn't an either/or situation. These guys are playing an altogether different game from the one they expect us to play as good little consumer sheep dutifully buying our compact light globes and water saving shower heads.Linda Minor Wrote:In my opinion the climate debate is one being waged by bankers--one side promoting coal, fossil fuels and other methods of infrastructure which have been linked to a distribution of utilities network that they financed over a period of decades beginning in the 1930's. The other side attempting to create a new infrastructure that could finance "green" industrial distribution--such as solar and wind power. In order to build such a system, there must be adequate demand and a means of paying for the research necessary to build the international distribution network. That takes money. In many ways, scientists are just sophists, who argue for the side which signs their paychecks. The one thing there is no money in (for Them) is self sufficiency. This was well understood by the British colonialists as they imposed a hut tax on the African natives who, since they produced their own textiles, food and shelter, saw no need to leave their families and communities to go mining for Cecil Rhodes or De Beeres or build railroads. Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - David Guyatt - 05-12-2009 In regard to Jan's post above in which the article stated the following: Quote:Lord Lawson, the Conservative former chancellor who has just launched a think tank devoted to challenging conventional wisdom about climate change, told Channel 4 News the advert was "mendacious". I would merely note that Lord Lawson's son, Dominic ( who writes the Editorial and Opinion sections for The Independent newspaper), is married to Rosa, the sister of Lord Monckton. Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Jan Klimkowski - 05-12-2009 David Guyatt Wrote:In regard to Jan's post above in which the article stated the following: Hohoho... :dancing: Yes, and Dominic Lawson has denied spooky allegations such as the ones here: Quote:Editor 'provided cover for spies' http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2001/jan/26/sundaytelegraph.pressandpublishing So, given the near certain involvement of intelligence agencies in influencing the debate around climate change, quite what are the various spooky players up to? Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - Jan Klimkowski - 05-12-2009 Quote:Gore cancels on Copenhagen lecture – leaves ticket holders in a lurch http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/03/gore-cancels-on-copenhagen-lecture-leaves-ticketholders-in-a-lurch/ Climate Change proponents emails and files hacked - David Guyatt - 05-12-2009 Richard Tomlinson is highly credible imo, and given the fact that Dominic Lawson's brother-in-law, Anthony Monckton, certainly is an MI6 officer then it is becoming clearer that there is a spooky agenda involved in all this. I now suspect that all those UEA emails that started this controversy were hacked by MI6 or one of their deniable assets. The question remains why? On Lord Lawson the following from Wiki: Quote:In the cabinet reshuffle of September 1981, Lawson was promoted to the position of Secretary of State for Energy. In this role his most significant action was to prepare for what he saw as an inevitable full-scale strike in the coal industry (then state-owned since nationalisation by the post-war government of Clement Attlee) over the closure of pits whose operation accounted for the coal industry's business losses and consequent requirement for state subsidy. In 1998 Lord Lawson joined the Board of Innovest Strategic Risk Advisors Inc. In 2009 RiskMetrics Group acquired Innovest. RiskMetrics was in its earlier days a risk division of J P Morgan but was spun out into private ownership in 1996. Today one of its three prime areas of operation is "Climate Risk Managment" (see: http://www.riskmetrics.com/climate_risk_management) Quote:RiskMetrics' recent acquisition of Innovest Strategic Value Advisors brings together two established firms with deep expertise in the newly emerging field of climate governance and carbon finance. Both organizations have played a significant role over the years in providing timely research and analytics to industry leaders such as Ceres and the Carbon Disclosure Project. I believe it is here where interested researchers should focus their attention. RiskMetrics is headquartered at 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza NYC. |