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Operation Gladio - Peter Lemkin - 17-05-2014
Nice to hear there is more documentation now, but this is not news to me. Gehlen Org., indeed....and their strange bedfellows called the C.I.A.....then newborn from the OSS and some other 'threads'. Gladio goes back before there was a program named Gladio, just as fascism goes back in history way, way before Mussolini coined the term. In its current form, the 'Gladio' concept was the still-born child of one Otto Skorzeny...but he, in turn, had learned it from others before him. Sadly, it is with us still....I believe in 9-11-01 and many subsequent events....all under a very big umbrella I would that I'd put the name 'Gladio' on the folder for.....indeed, I do believe I have that folder around here....somewhere.....:
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Operation Gladio - Paul Rigby - 15-02-2015
Tracy Riddle Wrote:The Strategy of Tension in the Cold War Period (PDF) - Daniele Ganser
http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2014GanserVol39May.pdf
Having examined much of the data related to the 9/11 events, I am convinced a new and thorough investigation is needed. But when I have questioned the official narrative of 9/11 in my native Switzerland I have encountered vigorous objections from people. Why would any government in the world, they have asked, attack its own population or, only slightly less criminal, deliberately allow a foreign group to carry out such an attack? While brutal dictatorships, such as the regime of Pol Pot in Cambodia, are known to have had little respect for the life and dignity of their citizens, surely a Western democracy, the thinking goes, would not engage in such an abuse of power. And if criminal elements within a Western democracy, in North America or in Europe, had engaged in such a crime, would not elected officials or the media find out and report on it? Is it imaginable that criminal persons within a government could commit terrorist operations against innocent citizens, who support the very same government with the taxes they pay every year? Would nobody notice? These are difficult questions, even for academics who specialize in the history of secret warfare. But in fact, there are historical examples of such operations being implemented by Western democracies.
The Mind Renewed, interview-broadcast 97:
Published on Friday, 30 January 2015 19:31
Our guest this week is Swiss historian Dr. Daniele Ganser, author of the seminal book NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe, who joins us for a fascinating (though at times unsettling) conversation on the subject of Operation GLADIO.
Shortly after WWII a Europe-wide network of secret armies was organised under the aegis of NATO, tasked with providing military and intelligence resistance in the event of a feared Soviet invasion. Modelled on the resistance movements of the war years, many of these "stay behind" units remained faithful to their original mandate. But by the early 1960s - under the pressures of anti-communist politicking and flirtations with the Far Right - some of these groups began to morph into something more sinister, linking up with extreme right-wingers who carried out acts of false-flag terrorism, harassment of left-wing parties and coups d'état.
But was this morphing simply an unforseen consequence of the unaccountability and instability of the network itself? Or was it, at least in part, engineered by the very Anglo-American establishment which gave birth to the project in the first place? And to what extent, therefore, can such acts of terror be seen as manifestations of 'the strategy of tension', carried out by the State against its own citizens for the purposes of control at home and geopolitical gain abroad? (We also discuss: Operation Northwoods, the so-called War on Terror, 9/11 and the recent Charlie Hebdo attacks.)
http://themindrenewed.com/interviews/2015/600-int-70
Operation Gladio - Peter Lemkin - 03-07-2015
Found an interesting website on Gladio, where one can get some good basic information with which to investigate further. It is obviously not written by a native English speaker, but one can understand what is being said. Here, for example, is information and links on Lemnitzer [links certainly NOT complete!] http://operation-gladio.net/node/749
Operation Gladio - Anthony Thorne - 03-07-2015
I contacted some of the folks running that site late last year and mentioned DPF to them - they were happy when I gave them links to the Peter Bridges thread I'd posted here as it helped them ascertain who the Rome CIA Station Chief was for a certain time period that had been missing from their database. Very useful site.
Operation Gladio - David Guyatt - 05-07-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Found an interesting website on Gladio, where one can get some good basic information with which to investigate further. It is obviously not written by a native English speaker, but one can understand what is being said. Here, for example, is information and links on Lemnitzer [links certainly NOT complete!] http://operation-gladio.net/node/749
Thanks. A really interesting site...
Operation Gladio - Dawn Meredith - 08-07-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Nice to hear there is more documentation now, but this is not news to me. Gehlen Org., indeed....and their strange bedfellows called the C.I.A.....then newborn from the OSS and some other 'threads'. Gladio goes back before there was a program named Gladio, just as fascism goes back in history way, way before Mussolini coined the term. In its current form, the 'Gladio' concept was the still-born child of one Otto Skorzeny...but he, in turn, had learned it from others before him. Sadly, it is with us still....I believe in 9-11-01 and many subsequent events....all under a very big umbrella I would that I'd put the name 'Gladio' on the folder for.....indeed, I do believe I have that folder around here....somewhere.....:
Carl Oglesby was heavily researching both Gehlen and Skorzeny in the 80's. He tried for years via Freedom of Information to obtain the Gehlen files. In the mid 90's he was finally successful and the boxes half filled a good sized bedroom. The rest of the room was filled with boxes of FBI files on Carl. For anyone interested all the Gehlen (and related files of Carl O) were donated by Carl to U Mass Amherst. (MA).
Dawn
Operation Gladio - Peter Lemkin - 08-07-2015
David Guyatt Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Found an interesting website on Gladio, where one can get some good basic information with which to investigate further. It is obviously not written by a native English speaker, but one can understand what is being said. Here, for example, is information and links on Lemnitzer [links certainly NOT complete!] http://operation-gladio.net/node/749
Thanks. A really interesting site...
I found one of the best parts the links to documents...some I had...some I did not, but do now.
Operation Gladio - Peter Lemkin - 08-07-2015
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Nice to hear there is more documentation now, but this is not news to me. Gehlen Org., indeed....and their strange bedfellows called the C.I.A.....then newborn from the OSS and some other 'threads'. Gladio goes back before there was a program named Gladio, just as fascism goes back in history way, way before Mussolini coined the term. In its current form, the 'Gladio' concept was the still-born child of one Otto Skorzeny...but he, in turn, had learned it from others before him. Sadly, it is with us still....I believe in 9-11-01 and many subsequent events....all under a very big umbrella I would that I'd put the name 'Gladio' on the folder for.....indeed, I do believe I have that folder around here....somewhere.....:
Carl Oglesby was heavily researching both Gehlen and Skorzeny in the 80's. He tried for years via Freedom of Information to obtain the Gehlen files. In the mid 90's he was finally successful and the boxes half filled a good sized bedroom. The rest of the room was filled with boxes of FBI files on Carl. For anyone interested all the Gehlen (and related files of Carl O) were donated by Carl to U Mass Amherst. (MA).
Dawn
How much luck did he have on Skorzeny? I'm interested in him now.....he has his connections to Western Intelligence and Banksters all along.....
Found the finding aid for his collection... http://scua.library.umass.edu/ead/mums514.html
Operation Gladio - Dawn Meredith - 08-07-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Nice to hear there is more documentation now, but this is not news to me. Gehlen Org., indeed....and their strange bedfellows called the C.I.A.....then newborn from the OSS and some other 'threads'. Gladio goes back before there was a program named Gladio, just as fascism goes back in history way, way before Mussolini coined the term. In its current form, the 'Gladio' concept was the still-born child of one Otto Skorzeny...but he, in turn, had learned it from others before him. Sadly, it is with us still....I believe in 9-11-01 and many subsequent events....all under a very big umbrella I would that I'd put the name 'Gladio' on the folder for.....indeed, I do believe I have that folder around here....somewhere.....:
Carl Oglesby was heavily researching both Gehlen and Skorzeny in the 80's. He tried for years via Freedom of Information to obtain the Gehlen files. In the mid 90's he was finally successful and the boxes half filled a good sized bedroom. The rest of the room was filled with boxes of FBI files on Carl. For anyone interested all the Gehlen (and related files of Carl O) were donated by Carl to U Mass Amherst. (MA).
Dawn
How much luck did he have on Skorzeny? I'm interested in him now.....he has his connections to Western Intelligence and Banksters all along.....
Found the finding aid for his collection... http://scua.library.umass.edu/ead/mums514.html
Peter:THANK YOU for this. As I recall he pretty much reached a dead end on Skorzeny, unless he had better luck after I moved to Austin (1990) and just never learned about it.
Operation Gladio - Dawn Meredith - 08-07-2015
Wow Peter, I did not even know that link existed. Reading through it all was like re-living a lot of my own life from 1973-2011. I will have to make a special trip up there sometime and spend some time going through some of this stuff. As an aside, the way all of his works came to be donated to UMASS originated from a call from a women with whom he had gone to CUBA. As I recall she was working at UMASS at the time she contacted Carl- out of the blew after so many decades- and after several conversations she suggested he both: move to Amherst (where the rent was way cheaper than Cambridge) and donate all his material to UMASS.
This is what getting old is like: so many of your dearest friends just up and die.
Dawn