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CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial - Ed Jewett - 27-02-2010 Reviewing this thread and the contact protocols reminded me of Episode 13 of Sagan's Cosmos [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmQUMKys8ts ]. It also reminded me of the book by a fellow who has written on the white Doomsday plane over D.C. on 9/11, the book Dimona: The Third Temple?, and one that attracted me: Gnostic Secrets of the Naassenes: The Initiatory Teachings of the Last Supper. In the latter, he speaks of "the reversal of flow", the Grail, Kundalini energies, shakti yoga, tantric practices, the double helix of DNA, Jung's Aion, the Ophite bowl, the pleroma, the singularity,the bindu and the chakras. Interestingly, a recent podcast offered up at Electric Politics features an interview with Ellen Langer, a professor in the Psychology Department at Harvard University. Her books written for general and academic readers include Mindfulness, The Power of Mindful Learning, On Becoming An Artist, and Counterclockwise. [I have read the first two.] http://www.ellenlanger.com/about/ "Thinking conventionally about things distances us from ourselves. Instead, argues Dr. Ellen J. Langer, we could be mindful, alive to possibility. Being mindful — Ellen provides a boatload of empirical evidence for this — will improve our physical well-being, make us happier, and extend our longevity. Her latest book, Counterclockwise, tells the story. You should read it. I also happen to think her ideas have a profound application to politics, though we tread lightly on that question in this conversation. It was a pure delight to talk with Ellen and I learned a great deal. Total runtime an hour and one minute." http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/20...cal_monism.html CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial - David Guyatt - 27-02-2010 Ed Jewett Wrote:Reviewing this thread and the contact protocols reminded me of Episode 13 of Sagan's Cosmos [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmQUMKys8ts ]. I haven't yet looked at the Ellen Langer video Ed, but was impressed by Sagan's piece. It never ceases to amaze me how archetypes manifest themselves across the length and breadth of the planet, coursing up through the unconscious of different cultures and peoples separated by thousands of miles. The Tingit's Raven God being an example. It has so many pulses, from Odin and Wotan, through to Celtic and, of course, is a symbol par excellence for the shadow. In the below link it is amazing to read that in the Hopi and Navajo native American tribes, that the raven was viewed as having flown out of the darkness of the cosmos and brought with it the light of the sun -- the perfect description of the shadow confrontation. I had to smile that in the Tinget legends, those who looked upon the raven would be turned to stone, which captures the Greek Medusa legend to a tee. And, of course, the stone itself is central to alchemy and grail studies. And, of course, there are some curious reverberations that directly relate to the strange physics discussed in this thread. CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial - Keith Millea - 27-02-2010 David, Your last link(under physics)seems to not be working.Is it just me? :dontknow: CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial - Ed Jewett - 27-02-2010 No, it's not just you, and that Ellen Langer video is actually an MP3, so you can take it with you if have one of those. CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial - David Guyatt - 28-02-2010 It was okay when I linked it, but yes it seems not to work now. CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial - Magda Hassan - 02-06-2013 Stanford University Research: Atacama Humanoid Still A Mystery Steven M. Greer MD 22 April 2013 After six months of research by leading scientists at Stanford University, the Atacama Humanoid remains a profound mystery. The humanoid was first discovered in 2003 in the remote Atacama desert region of Chile, but I did not learn of the existence of the specimen until 2009, when invited to examine the mummy-like remains of the humanoid in Barcelona Spain. In the summer of 2012, Ramón Navia-Osorio Villar, President of Instituto de Investigaciones y Estudios Exobiológicos graciously permitted our team to do further tests on the humanoid. We traveled to Barcelona Spain in late September 2012 to obtain detailed X Rays, CAT scans and take genetic samples for testing at Stanford University. Dr. Garry Nolan (Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Stanford University School of Medicine) headed up the team examining the human-like specimen. He suggested the protocol for taking the DNA samples and, in consultation with Dr. Ralph Lachman, also of Stanford University, suggested precisely which X Rays and CT scan images would be needed for proper evaluation of the skeletal anomalies. ![]() Dr. Lachman, who is a visiting scholar and visiting professor at Stanford University and author of "Radiology of Syndromes, Metabolic Disorders and Skeletal Dysplasias" and is one of the leading experts in the world on skeletal dysplasia and abnormalities, examined the X Rays, CAT scans and photographs of the humanoid. We obtained excellent DNA material by surgically dissecting the distal ends of two right anterior ribs on the humanoid. These clearly contained bone marrow material, as was seen on the dissecting microscope that was brought in for the procedure. The bone marrow and other material from the skull were obtained under sterile, surgical procedures and placed directly into sterile containers provided by Dr. Nolan. Using forensic documentation procedures, this evidence was then hand-delivered by me to Dr. Nolan in Washington DC in October, 2012. Dr. Nolan proceeded to set up a very detailed protocol needed for examining "ancient" or old DNA. This is a highly specialized area of research and the leading scientists in the world with expertise in this area consulted with Dr. Nolan in this endeavor. The Atacama Humanoid is a 13 centimeter, or 6 inch, body that is very desiccated but completely intact. The CAT scan clearly shows internal chest organs (lungs and what appears to be the remains of a heart structure).(See CAT scan here) There is absolutely no doubt that the specimen is an actual organism and that it is not a hoax of any kind. This fact has been confirmed by Dr. Nolan and Dr. Lachman at Stanford. The specimen has only 10 ribs, a finding not yet found in humans, and a very unusual cranium. It is noted that the cranial vault is, proportionally, much larger than is found in normal humans. The bones are quite well developed and are not those of a fetus (see below). There are multiple skeletal anomalies seen throughout the specimen. Importantly a mature, not fetal, tooth is seen in the mandible (jaw bone) A fracture of the right humerus (upper arm) is seen as is a concave fracture of the right posterior-lateral skull, which was most likely the cause of death. Human fetus (2 months) Atacama HumanoidImportantly, Dr. Lachman has concluded that the humanoid's appearance is NOT the result of any known deformity, genetic defect, skeletal dysplasia or any other known human abnormality. However, the most startling conclusion to date is that Dr. Lachman concluded the humanoid lived to be 6- 8 years of age. (See Dr. Lachman's full report here…). This was assessed by examining the epiphyseal plates in the knees and comparing these to normal humans of various ages. Human Knee, 1 Month Human Knee, 6 YearsHe noted that there is no known form of human dwarfism that has this presentation and set of findings. No human has been known to be able to live for 6-8 years and remain only 6 inches in length. It should be noted also that Dr. Manchon, of the Manchon Radiology Center in Barcelona, also examined the X Rays and concluded that the specimen was most certainly not a fetus and had lived for a year or more and probably several years. Previously, there had been false reports published elsewhere that the humanoid was a fetus. This is clearly not the case as can be concluded from the research of Dr. Lachman and the examination by Dr. Manchon. A comparison of fetus X Rays shows a remarkable difference between human fetus skeletal development and the X Rays of the Atacama humanoid. Human Newborn Human Fetus Atacama HumanoidPainstaking and expert DNA extraction was done by Dr. Nolan at Stanford University. A very high quality and quantity of DNA was successfully extracted and analyzed. Only preliminary analysis of the DNA has been done to date, and Dr. Nolan notes that it may be a year or more before full manual analysis and confirmation can occur. Dr. Nolan notes: "The DNA was of high quality, showing little to no serious degradation." Dr. Nolan also notes that: "Sequence analysis definitively rules out the specimen as an example of a New World primate." Importantly, Dr. Nolan has found that: "Preliminary results demonstrate no statistically relevant alterations of genes encoding proteins commonly associated with known genes for primordial dwarfism or other forms of dwarfism. Therefore, if there is a genetic basis for the symptoms observed in the specimen the casual mutation(s) are not apparent at this level of resolution and at this stage of the analysis." It should be noted that Neanderthals are 99.5% genetically identical to humans, and chimps and apes are 96-97% identical. As of this date, the genotype does not seem to match the phenotype (meaning physically expressed form of the genetics). The answer to this mystery will lead in further analysis of the DNA and confirmation of the findings through the peer review process. Dr. Nolan's report (see full preliminary comments here NOTE: DNA testing continues and is not complete) concludes by stating further research is needed: "This preliminary report demonstrates how currently available biomedical technologies can be readily applied to the analysis of archeologically and anthropologically relevant human specimens with genetic disorders of unknown origin. This report is not a formal conclusion on the nature of the mutations or the underlying cause of the disorder in this human specimen. Currently the data represents (conservatively) a 15 fold whole genome reading and as such is insufficient for definitive conclusions. Future plans include continued study of this specimen to establish up to a 50 fold WHS read that could point to targeted sequencing of hypothetical causal mutations. Comparison of the observed sequence variations against recently developed ethnically focused genome databases is planned. Full analysis of the DNA, and attempts to link genetics to morphology, will eventually follow in an appropriately peer-reviewed article in an accredited scientific journal. The results will be independently verified before publication." ![]() Clinically, given that this humanoid lived many decades to centuries ago (exact date remains unknown but it is not a recently living specimen) it is hard to understand how a 6 inch baby or child could have lived to be 6-8 years of age in such a remote and undeveloped part of the world. Even in today's best Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) we would hardly be able to keep such a specimen alive. As an emergency physician, I have delivered premature infants, as well as a significantly deformed one with anencephaly, and am struck by how small and fragile this humanoid is. Medically speaking, IF this is merely a deformed human, it does not seem feasible that it would have lived to be 6-8 years of age. Speaking as a clinician, I, as well as other doctors with whom I have spoken, doubt it would have lived 6 hours. It should also be noted that the specimen has a visible, well-developed tooth in the mandible, also not consistent with a human fetus of this size. Given how long ago he lived and how primitive that area would have been- totally lacking in modern medical technologies and facilities- how would this child have lived? And with whom? Certainly there are many more questions than answers at this juncture. The mystery is further compounded by the reports from Ramon Navia-Osorio Villar and his associates who traveled to the region and obtained information from local native peoples of sightings of UFOs and very small living creatures fitting the general description of this humanoid. There are also reports that other intact humanoids may be stored in various remote sites and locations. These reports have not been confirmed, however. It is necessary to do much more thorough research into this case. The DNA work is really in its early stages, and we need to take a scientific expedition to the Atacama desert to see if there are more examples of this humanoid- and to see if indeed there is on-going UFO/ ET activity in that region as reported. HYPOTHESIS AND THOUGHTS |