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John Lear on airplane wreckage - Peter Presland - 27-09-2009
Thanks for posting the John Lear deposition Jack.
Before entering the parasitical world of 'financial services' I achieved Chartered status as a marine engineer, so I'm not a complete dummy when it comes to the physical laws of power, velocity, drag, momentum etc on which much of the deposition is argued. I also found his description of visibility and the problems associated with controlling the aircraft at the alleged height/speed combination similarly persuasive, even though my flying experience is limited to having obtained a private pilots licence on open cockpit Tiger Moths over 40 years ago and dabbling in the world of gliders about 15 years ago.
In summary I found the deposition VERY persuasive indeed and I would love to see a point by point rebuttal from someone similarly qualified.
All of which is not to say that there were no planes; just that I regard it as yet another wide open question (albeit a gigantic one) which, if it really is so ridiculous, ought to be easily refuted by similar recourse to the laws of physics. Also that all the things that would logically follow from such a circumstance warrant continued research.
Personally I find it reassuring that that is exactly what appears to be happening; although I do agree that to baldly assert that 'there were no planes' in any 'consensus trance' type gathering is likely to provoke either gales of laughter or the summoning of people in white coats to cart you away in a strait-jacket.
John Lear on airplane wreckage - Jack White - 27-09-2009
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Jack, for what lawsuit was that deposition taken?
Guess you missed it in all the legalese:
Jerry V. Leaphart #jl4468
Jerry V. Leaphart & Assoc., P.C.
8 West Street, Suite 203
Danbury, CT 06810
(203) 825-6265 – phone
(203) 825-6256 – fax
jsleaphart@cs.com
[COLOR="Red"]UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
DR. MORGAN REYNOLDS, on behalf of :
The United States of America :
:
Plaintiff, : ECF CASE
vs. :
: 07 CIV 4612 (GBD)
SCIENCE APPLICATIONS :
INTERNATIONAL CORP., et al :
: January 28, 2008
Defendants. :
AFFIDAVIT
STATE OF NEVADA :
COUNTY OF CLARK :[/COLOR]
JOHN LEAR, of full age, being duly sworn, deposes and says:
I.
John Lear on airplane wreckage - Jack White - 28-09-2009
John Lear and Morgan Reynolds filed the lawsuit
for the purpose of using the legal means of
DISCOVERY to learn about governmental suppression
of evidence. For instance they hope to be able to
force the release of airplane parts with records
tracing the airplanes to the hijacked airliners.
So far they have been stonewalled.
Jack
John Lear on airplane wreckage - Peter Lemkin - 28-09-2009
Jack White Wrote:John Lear and Morgan Reynolds filed the lawsuit
for the purpose of using the legal means of
DISCOVERY to learn about governmental suppression
of evidence. For instance they hope to be able to
force the release of airplane parts with records
tracing the airplanes to the hijacked airliners.
So far they have been stonewalled.
Jack
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! :flute:
John Lear on airplane wreckage - Peter Lemkin - 28-09-2009
Peter Lemkin Wrote:[quote=Jack White]John Lear and Morgan Reynolds filed the lawsuit
for the purpose of using the legal means of
DISCOVERY to learn about governmental suppression
of evidence. For instance they hope to be able to
force the release of airplane parts with records
tracing the airplanes to the hijacked airliners.
So far they have been stonewalled.
Jack
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! :flute: Why, one might ask, if the Govt. had nothing to hide in its 'official version', would it not jump at the opportunity to prove it to the ever growing more skeptical public. I see on some other Forums ONE PIECE has been claimed to have an ID number that matches ONE of the planes - without producing the parts number lists under oath. (i.e - if you doubt the official version, just 'buy' the proof offered by its supporter/protagonists.)
John Lear on airplane wreckage - Peter Lemkin - 28-09-2009
http://www.911blogger.com/node/13149
John Lear on airplane wreckage - Jack White - 28-09-2009
John Lear, in a recent posting, made a VERY interesting observation.
Since he has VAST EXPERIENCE as a passenger pilot, he wonders why
nobody has filed an FOIA request for what in the industry is called
THE ENVELOPE...on the four hijacked flights. The ENVELOPES were not
mentioned in any of the investigations.
THE ENVELOPE contains a document, signed by the AIRCRAFT CAPTAIN
on EVERY COMMERCIAL FLIGHT, which contains the final passenger manifest,
the destination, the amount of fuel on board, the names of the pilot and
flight attendants, etc., and the time the DOOR OF THE AIRCRAFT WAS CLOSED.
The chief pilot signs the document, puts into the ENVELOPE, seals it and
hands it to the CHIEF FLIGHT ATTENDANT, who hands it to a terminal
employee. The chief flight attendant then CLOSES THE DOOR. The ENVELOPE
remains ON THE GROUND in airline custody. It is required by the FAA, and
is what is opened in case of a crash. IT STAYS ON THE GROUND, THUS IS
NOT DESTROYED IN ANY CRASH. All four flights should have had
ENVELOPES available.
Jack
...I should have mentioned that the passenger mainfest (a printout of
preticketed passengers) may be augmented by the chief flight attendant
if passengers do not show up, or late arrivals are added. The manifest
in THE ENVELOPE would include the names of hijackers, if preticketed,
or their written in aliases if added at the last moment by hand. In any
event, every person on board would be accounted for.