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Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Peter Lemkin - 17-03-2016 Peter Lemkin Wrote:[TABLE="width: 100%"] Good video report on electronic theft of Ohio vote and assassination of one main player who might have been willing to whistleblow. https://www.corbettreport.com/mp4/ep226.mp4 The system is now even more embedded and 'accepted' and widespread. Expect to see lots of this in the primaries and in the next elections! Long before computers made it easy, Stalin made a very important observation, "it is not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes." Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Doug Fisher - 21-03-2016 Peter Lemkin Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Well, Hilary sure ain't offering this or anything remotely like it. Just more of the same. I would love to vote for Bernie but cannot. Even though I think the rest of the world should be able to vote in US elections since the US thinks it owns it all Yep. Remember Omaha-World-Herald, heavily involved in the Franklin Scandal cover up? They previously had a stake in ES&S. http://www.omaha.com/money/change-at-helm-of-es-s-in-new-year/article_7172ae08-ea58-59c6-89ad-0a03705e4fa1.html http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years/print And of course Diebold and the CIA... http://peoplesworld.org/who-is-counting-your-vote-diebold-and-bush-vs-the-public-interest/ Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Magda Hassan - 21-03-2016 This was quite a good website in the past but not sure what is happening here now.Quiet. http://blackboxvoting.org/ Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Peter Lemkin - 03-04-2016 Screw Paul Krugman: Bernie Had Better Keep Exposing Hillary's Legendary Level of CorruptionPosted on April 2, 2016 by willylomanby Scott Creighton Leave it to Paul Krugman, the voice of the "responsible" left, to tell us when it's time to stop exposing the criminal face of the shape-shifting chameleon that is Hillary Clinton so that we can "win" the upcoming election and keep a globalist Business-first war-mongering self-serving Democrat in the White House. Because, as you know, it's always better than the alternative. Right? In an op-ed for the New York Times, Krugman writes about how Bernie Sanders has to start acting like an adult and stop "feeding the right-wing disinformation machine" by talking about how corrupt Clinton is. "Engaging in innuendo suggesting, without evidence, that Clinton is corrupt is, at this point, basically campaigning on behalf of the RNC. If Sanders really believes, as he says, that it's all-important to keep the White House out of Republican hands, he should stop all that and tell his staff to stop it too."Paul Krugman, NYT By far and away, Krugman's career-minded pandering aside, Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt politician left standing this election cycle. Period. And she's dishonest. That's been proven time and time again.Let's take a look at a few of the most recent examples of work establishing Hillary Clinton's criminal bona fides, shall we? Let's see if it's just Bernie doing that work "on behalf of the RNC" as Paul seems to suggest. Right now there are as many as 147 FBI agents working on her email case. That's the story about how as Sec. of State, Hillary Clinton decided to set up her own email server, in her home, so that she and her staff could edit her communications while serving this country in that position. It was TOTALLY illegal and done for the sole purpose of getting away with criminal behavior without leaving an email trail behind that could expose her down the road. Clinton lied about Benghazi when she knew for a fact that the attack on the compound had nothing to do with some stupid video the FBI paid a snitch to make for a honey-pot sting in L.A. She had her lifelong friend, Sidney Blumenthal, running around in Libya trying to cut deals with anyone he could so they, the Clinton Foundation, could make money in the rubble that was left in the wake of her regime change operation in the country. Blumenthal sent her an email back then suggesting the French and Brits really only wanted the oil in Libya and to keep the country's beloved leader from using his vast gold reserves to usurp French control of the region. So much for her "humanitarian intervention" Clinton's "compassionate invasion" of Haiti following the 2010 earthquake has been an unmitigated disaster for everyone involved EXCEPT for Bill and Hillary Clinton and a few of their favorite businesses. Her email scandal revealed how the state department worked diligently to put a bright smiley happy face on the story, trying to make it look less corrupt. In 2013, Hillary Clinton's brother took a job on the advisory board of a Haiti gold mining company. I wonder what kind of influence that hire bought them. Just this past month, Haitians are protesting in large numbers the corruption and graft of the Clintons in their country and how they practically stole the billions of dollars of recovery money the people of the world donated for the people of Haiti, to help them rebuild after the earthquake. Hillary Clinton, then Sec. of State, put her corrupt husband in charge of that money. "Six years after the massive earthquake in Haiti, many people in the country continue to hold Hillary Clinton's State Department and the Clinton Foundation responsible for a botched recovery effort that cost billions for seemingly little returns. Back in 2009, when Manuel Zelaya was illegally removed from office in a coup in Honduras, the Clinton machine worked overtime to make sure the leftist president remained out of office, and the far-right coup leaders who replaced him, remained in power.The New York Times reports that the Clintons have been a top target of protesters in Port au Prince, who claim earthquake aid money was mismanaged and lucrative deals went to Clinton cronies." Alana Goodman, Mar. 2016 As for the Clinton connections, Grandin wrote, "In the Nation,Dana Frank and Icovered that coup as it unfolded. Later, as Clinton's emails were released, others, such as Robert Naiman, Mark Weisbrot and Alex Main, revealed the central role she played in undercutting Manuel Zelaya, the deposed president, and undercutting the opposition movement demanding his restoration. In so doing, Clinton allied with the worst sectors of Honduran society." AlterNet, Mar. 2016 Before her murder, anti-coup activist Berta Cáceres, singled out Hillary Clinton as the one leading the charge to bolster legitimacy for the illegal government that took over Honduras.Not only was that government that Hillary backed (and helped create) an illegal one, they were and are a brutal military junta, for the most part, serving the interests of foreign businesses who have flooded into the country in the wake of the coup in order to strip the nation of it's natural resources. The Clinton-brokered election did indeed install and legitimate a militarized regime based on repression. In the interview, Cáceres says that Clinton's coup-government, under pressure from Washington, passed terrorist and intelligence laws that criminalized political protest. Cáceres called it "counterinsurgency," carried out on behalf of "international capital"mostly resource extractorsthat has terrorized the population, murdering political activists by the high hundreds. "Every day," Cáceres said elsewhere, "people are killed." The Nation, Mar. 2016 As far as the murder of Berta Caceres is concerned, it's still unsolved at this point. There is one witness, Gustavo Castro, a well known Mexican national, activist, and journalist but he is currently in custody of the illegal military junta running Honduras at this point and is not likely to ever be seen again.We still don't have a clear idea of the events surrounding Cáceres's murder. There is one witness, Gustavo Castro, a Mexican national, activist, and journalist, who was with Cáceres when gunmen burst into her bedroom. Berta died in his arms. Castro was himself shot twice, but survived by playing dead. So I wonder who killed the activist woman who fingered Hillary Clinton. Right before her run for the White House.The Honduran governmentthat "unity government" Clinton is proud ofhas Castro in lockdown, refusing him contact with the outside world. The Nation, Mar. 2016 Hmmm… In a recent interview with Rachel "Suck Up" Maddow, Hillary Clinton was asked if she would consider shutting down the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Global(ist) Initiative while she was president in order to avoid any perception of corruption or influence peddling. Clinton's response was too say the way to fix that was through "transparency" with the for-profit institutions. Translation: "hell no. I can make a lot of money with those things while running the country" Transparency or lack thereof, is Hillary's biggest weakness in the eyes of the general population. At least that is true of those who are paying attention these days, and a lot of us are paying attention these days. When it comes to real lefties like myself refusing to back Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee for the White House, the reason is simple: it's the corruption, stupid. She is a liar. She is a whore to Goldman Sachs and any other major corporation or financial interest that has money to stuff in her panties. She installs brutal dictatorships that literally kill real leftists with impunity while she sings their praises and calls them "democracies" until she can't anymore as the rest of the world expose them for what they are. Forget Honduras and Haiti… she was family friends with Mubarak in Egypt and supported his brutal dictatorship up until the moment she finally had to admit he was killing protesters like it was going out of style and called for his removal. Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve to be in the White House and I don't care how many op-eds Paul Krugman writes on the subject, I'm not going to stop reporting on her corruption just like those "right wing" publications I just quoted or linked to like: Salon, Politico, AlterNet and the Nation. Truth be told, it's not the Republican Party that is fragmented these days, it's the Dems. We've been busted up since Obama was the projected winner of the nomination back in 2008. The anti-war, anti-globalization left was unified under the Bush administration like never before in my way too many years of adulthood. With the coronation of the neoliberal Business Firster Barack Obama, the real left broke from the petite bourgeoisie, play it safe, DNC "pragmatic" left and ever since then, our numbers have grown while the Business Party left of Clinton, Obama, Clinton is dying on the vine. Just check out Bernie's rallies if you don't believe me. Or check out the massive difference in the voting in states that don't use the hijacked electronic voting machines… that's show you what the real numbers should look like. Paul Krugman is essentially saying "ignore Hillary's corruption and war-mongering and lies because The Donald is bad" and frankly that argument, though it is going to be the call to arms for the Killary Campaign in the near future, is spurious at best and insulting beyond measure. And because The Donald is so "bad", we are supposed to rally behind a proven criminal and war-mongering war profiteer? And that's Paul's assessment of the situation? We have to shut up about the truth about Hillary because we want to empower her and the Clinton Foundation even more by sticking her and her private email accounts in the White House? Is he insane? I don't care if Bernie steals the nomination at this point. He better not stop talking about how corrupt she is… because she is corrupt and there are plenty of left-leaning publications that have exposed the remarkable level of corruption she has reached over the years. If she looses to Cruz the televangelist or Comb-over Trump, you will see the left come together instantaneously. They'll be back out on the streets where they belong protesting like they should have been during the left cover days of ObamaGod. Unfortunately, that's exactly why she will "win" the presidency. Four more years of left cover war-mongering and neoliberal regime change ops across the world. That's what we will get and that is why I hope Bernie keeps raking her corrupt ass over the coals every chance he gets. Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Alan Ford - 04-04-2016 What I'd give to have a legitimate Free Press again. It's truly a sad day for representative democracy when the current MSM sells out to do the bidding of the highest bidders. But, hey, guess if you're already an active part of covering up a five decades old lie about the events in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, what's the harm in tilting an election by belittling a genuine voice of the people who dares to confront the status-quo and hold them accountable. Something tells me Revolutionary heroes like Henry (Patrick); Jefferson (Thomas); and Madison (James) would be labeled "terrorists" today. Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Peter Lemkin - 08-11-2016 [TABLE="width: 100%"] [TR] [TD="width: 84%"]The Answer to the Question: Why on Earth Would Anyone Vote for Bernie NOW? By jenny miller [/TD] [TD="width: 16%"][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Thereason we are writing in Bernie is because he is the person who won theprimary, and we believe in democracy. Even after all the election fraud we sawhappening in state after state during the primaries, Bernie still won the first-floor vote at the DNC convention, and some observers say there were actuallytwo floor votes that he won. It was only when the superdelegates were trottedout, representing no one but themselves and their corporate colleagues, that itwas made to appear that Hillary had won the nomination. Not only did Bernie winthe primary, all polls show Bernie coming in ahead of any other candidate inthe general election, even when he's not technically running. Isn't that whatour democracy is? The candidate that the most people want to have as presidentis the one who is voted into office? Bernie Sanders, June 2015 There are twelve states that will definitely count write-in votes even if thecandidate did not sign up or register. These are Vermont, CA, WI, WY, OR, WA,AL, IA, NH, RI, NJ plus DC. The deny270 strategy is for people to vote forBernie in these states, and Jill Stein in the remaining ones, where votes forBernie will not count. If no one gets 270 votes, the vote for president thengoes to the newly-elected House of Representatives. There will be newBerniecrats in office. The Republican leaders hate Hillary with a passion andmost of them have been denouncing Trump in recent weeks, since they feel he isdestroying their party. By law, they would have to choose from the top threeelectoral vote-getters so that would leave Bernie. He has a unique ability toappeal to people across party lines. (Some people have wondered why Jill Stein couldnot end up in the third-place position for consideration in The ElectoralCollege? That won't happen. because at best, Jill Stein's supporters are hopingshe'll get 5-15% of the vote. She is largely unknown to most Americans andthere is no chance she will come in ahead of all other candidates in any ofthese "winner-takes-all" elections.) The only other possibleElectoral College vote-getter would be McMullin in Utah, but the latest pollsdo not show this to be a real possibility. As far as the oft-heard refrain that "Bernie does not want to be presidentany more," it's hard to for me to fathom how anyone can seriously believethis. He sacrificed what are supposed to be his and Jane's relaxing retirementyears to campaign his heart out, giving sometimes two speeches a day to crowdsof thousands all over the country. Even his younger aides couldn't keep up. Theprimary was stolen from him in many states and again at the convention. (Statisticiansat U.C. Berkeley and Stanford concluded that, based on the exit polls, thepossibility of Hillary having won the primary without election fraud were onein 77 billion). Bernie got stomped--and, wanting to retain his position of powerin the senate, he endorsed Hillary. BERNIE NEVER DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE. Henever conceded to Hillary at the convention. He did not call for a vote byacclamation, but instead recommended that Hillary be "selected" asthe nominee, a fitting way to describe the victory of someone who didn'tactually win. And when a write-in organizer recently called the FEC to see ifBernie was still listed as a candidate, they replied "Yes he is. He wouldhave let us know if he was dropping out." Bernard Sanders is still listedon their website as a candidate for President. Although Bernie is unable to officially endorse the write-in effort withoutlosing his position in the senate if Hillary were to win, he did actually sayon video recently that he thought it would be fine if people in Vermont wrotehim in--which, as I explained above, is the key state for this strategy to besuccessful. He also said on the Bill Maher show a couple weeks ago that he wishesit was him that was campaigning for President all over the country right nowinstead of Hillary. Doesn't sound likesomeone who no longer wants to be President. There are many other clues as to his true feelings, some of them coming fromJane Sanders' tweets: When saboteur named Nicole Guerin, who was pretending tobe a write-in-Bernie organizer, announced to the world that she privately metwith Jane Sanders, and that Jane told her that people should not write in Bernie(which caused tsunamis of despair to ripple across all the Bernie write-incampaigns), Jane Sanders immediately sent out a tweet to set the recordstraight. Jane said the story was completely fabricated, was untrue, and shewould never tell people not to support Bernie, or whom to vote for. A write-inBernie activist named Donald Kronos had a chance to talk to Bernie when he wasin CA last month. He told him he was a CA Bernie elector (Electoral Collegeelectors are a CA technical requirement for a write-in vote for Bernie to becounted), and Bernie responded with a yuuuuge smile and words of appreciationand gratitude. You can see Donald Kronos' description of this encounter onyoutube, which he posted as an introduction to a clip of the Bill Maher tape Imentioned previously. I'll end my article by describing a dream that someone posted on facebook. Shewas at a large legislative-like meeting, sitting next to Bernie Sanders.Suddenly, in the middle of the solemn proceedings, she stood up and shouted"Bring Back Bernie." And to her amazement all the legislators in theroom then stood up and shouted "Bring Back Bernie." The drumbeat isgrowing. Whether he will be brought back via the Electoral College, or becauseHillary is indicted, or because the people demand that the true winner of theprimary be allowed to take his rightful place--many people still believe Berniewill be our next President. There's still time for people, no matter where theylive, to phonebank to VT and the other key states (go to bernievote.com oropdeny.com). There's still time to call the DNC. There's still time to vote,and convince your friends to vote. Election-fraud investigators Greg Palast andRFK Jr. recommend in "Steal Back Your Vote" that you go to yourelections office or other designated early-voting site to vote in person priorto the actual day of the election, assuming that your state permits earlyvoting. If you signed up to be anabsentee voter and decide to vote in person, you need to bring the ballot youreceived in the mail, and the return envelope it came with, plus your ID. Insome states, like CA, the write-in vote is actually entered on the envelope flap,where there is a place designated for this. In ancient days, presidents were chosen based on a bird augury--hence our wordinauguration. The bird tribe has alreadyindicated who our next President should be. Bernie took his campaign as far as he couldtake it before he hit a brick wall. Now it's up to us to take it the rest ofthe way. Sanders called for abolishing the CIA - Lauren Johnson - 08-11-2016 There is another reason Bernie didn't win -- the non-aggression pact with leverage. https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794756750926876672 |