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ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Peter Lemkin - 03-09-2013
Don't miss the four part interview on Guns and Butter. Of course the book has more details and the references; more of the interconnections and a lot more information than in the interviews. The first thing that pops out at me is the names are the SAME names involved in Iran-Contra; the October Surprise; a few old JFK assassination names; TWA 800 names; WTC's first bombing names; OKC Bombing names; WACO names; money laudering/bankster names; COG names, First Gulf War names; and so MANY, MANY other highly suspicious deep political efforts at undermining democracy in America using a Gladio model. While I doubt these 19 are the ONLY persons of interest re:911 [and there are literally hundreds of other names named], I don't think a one of them is without some deep involvement[s]. Ryan did a great job and I sense he had help from Peter Dale Scott, one of many given thanks for in the acknowledgements. The only problem with my idea of underlining - one would wind up underlining well over half of the book. I think someone needs to use some software to make an affinity diagram [with references] of all of these names/persons/operations. The interconnections between these persons and the companies/entities/projects they work on is the give away...this is a sub rosa group seemingly operating in the 'real world' and in the political, business and military realms - but I think in reality they are the tip of the iceberg of a parallel hidden power structure.
Lastly, sadly, Ryan now will be advised to keep a low profile and hire security guards, if he can afford them....its THAT good!..making THOSE kinds of connections!
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Jim Hackett II - 03-09-2013
Dawn Meredith Wrote:=============================================Keith Millea Wrote:Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Keith Millea Wrote:
Guns and Butter"Another Nineteen, Part One" with Kevin Ryan. September 11, 2001; Donald Rumsfeld; Dick Cheney; Frank Carlucci; Carlyle Group; BDM Corporation; Stratesec; Richard Armitage; the deep state; SAIC; Richard Clarke; Continuity of Government; the War on Terror; United Arab Emirates; rendition; Rwandan genocide.
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/94115
Who is surprized by the fact that corruption exists, that old boys networks exists and are protected, that militarism has been sold to the people as a necessary and only means to protect them... but it is producing precisely the opposite results? Who can deny that there are people who are getting rich through the MIC and this may be why so many gravitate to it. This has been going on for a long time. War is a racket.
If you didn't bother to listen to the interview then please don't bother to respond to it.
Thank you Keith. I for one am finding the opinions by Jeffrey Orling not worthy of even reading.
Dawn
I see others concluded as I did weeks ago.
Physics didn't change that Tuesday morning, logic took as big hit that some try to continue striking.
I asked Ironworkers I know to join and speak for themselves re: WTC and Truth.
None after reading the pages of bunk wanted to talk truth to Bullshit.
Little wonder: the "Pearls before the swine" quote was referenced more than once unbidden.
When folks choose the same words as a tiny consensus gotta be truth in the concept somewhere.
Ah the whiff of the Wurlitzer.................
Best to all
Jim
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Charles Drago - 03-09-2013
Before we all suffer shoulder sprains while patting ourselves on the back, let's remember this:
The ultimate goal of cover-ups of deep political acts such as 9-11 and the JFK murder is NOT to eliminate doubts in favor of overwhelming majority acceptance of the official stories, but rather to PRESERVE doubt and all of its accompanying debilitating impacts.
For the sake of illustration: Assume that AGENT X came to DPF to serve 9-11 Facilitators by posting exactly what Orling posts. His/her material, once published, becomes part of the public 9-11 dialogue. The vast majority of readers will possess neither the technical nor the deep political knowledge required to discern subtext and subterfuge.
The "debate" continues. Doubt is ever more deeply entrenched. Mission accomplished.
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Phil Dragoo - 04-09-2013
Thank you for posting the book link, Anthony. It now goes onto my wish list which puts it up the steps in a week.
Keith, thank you for interview links: at the first block of time I'll audit all; will begin post-haste.
Jeffrey, you are as Holmes called Watson in His Last Bow, the one unchanging point in the turbulent pre-war period a century ago.
Jim, the official story was deemed sacred, but the obscene mass murder is treachery and will be outed.
Charles, the washing agents wish to effect that water color diffusion; case in point, Protesteth Too Much
Just read an Aynesworth and Myers attack on Morley for wanting CIA files
Oh, Joannides, you didn't get that award for nothing, any more than Phillips--and Veciana saw him with Oswald in Dallas Summer of '63
When I'd read Ryan's four-part study of tenants, contractors, security, I was hoping he'd return to the subject matter--and he has
Peter, your recommendation is high praise indeed
I recall someone termed your writing rubbish, not once but twice
In this wilderness of mirrors, one doesn't want every man's praise
And, by the way, Angleton took the phrase from Eliot's Gerontion
As befits a self-styled member of the world's greatest liars
As for the work of the obfuscators, they're falling down on their job: consensus for the Road to Syria is sorely lacking
The dead horse is unresponsive
Back to the well of Gladio for more tension
It was a perfectly clear autumn day with a crispness in the air as Jack Bauer strode past the CNN monitor, the crawl catching his eye
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Peter Lemkin - 04-09-2013
"Many people have worked with me in the pursuit of truth and justice and I owe a debt of gratitude to many of them. Among the most helpful have been Adnan Zuberi, Aidan Monaghan, Allan Giles, Bonnie Faulkner, Carol Brouillet, Catherine A. Fitts, Cheryl Curtiss, Chris Emery, David Chandler , David Griffin, David Kubiak, Don Paul, Dylan Avery, Elizabeth Woodworth, Frances Shure, Gregg Roberts , James Gourley, Janice Matthews, Jeremy Rys, Jim Hoffman, Jon Cole, Justin Keogh, Laurie Manwell, Matthew Everett, Michael Anderson, Michael Wolsey, Mike Berger, Niels Harrit , Paul Rea, Peter Scott, Richard Gage, Ted Tilton, Tim Boyle, Tony Szamboti, Victoria Ashley, William Bergman, the 9/ 11 Working Group of Bloomington, and the directors I worked with at Architects & Engineers for 9/ 11 Truth."
Ryan, Kevin (2013-06-14). Another Nineteen: Investigating Legitimate 9/11 Suspects (p. 5)
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Phil Dragoo - 04-09-2013
Kevin Ryan discusses the Mineta-Cheney controversy as Dick and Don form Part One of the book
The matter is of great significance and is complex, as described in "Mineta, Cheney and 'the orders still stand' controversy" in the attached pdf
The takeaway is that the airliner headed for the Pentagon was tracked from miles out and NORAD was under orders to stand down
Nixon refers to Rumsfeld as that ruthless little bastard
Armitage involved in drug running in Vietnam, associated with Shackley.
Carlucci director of Carlyle Group
Richard Clarke vetoing strike on OBL, vetoing action to stave off Rwandan massacre
L Paul Bremer managing director of Kissingeer Associates
As the interviewer notes, it is a dense book
Ryan has done four years research on it
Will be getting the Kindle and the paper back
And of course, Peter, a name jumps out of the acknowledgements
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Peter Lemkin - 04-09-2013
Quote:Ryan has done four years research on it
Yes, it is dense...and one seriously trying to underline or highlight the more important connections would likely underline or highlight nearly half of the book. The interconnections of these people is insane - from college roommates [Rumsfeld and Carlucci!], to secret societies, to spook co-conspirators to revolving doors of interconnected agencies and shady businesses - and shady businesses connected to other businesses and shady connections to shady countries like S.A., Pakistan, Yemen, UAE, et al. Arms and drug deals, illegal ops, COG, Gladio ops, obstruction of Justice, creating rather than preventing terrorism.....its all there. And more.
Well over 1,000 references and literally a spider web of spine-chilling interconnections between these 19 and many others - over/under and around them, throughout their lives, and to this very day.
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Peter Lemkin - 04-09-2013
In 1984, Clarke was selected to take part in one of the most highly classified projects of the Reagan Administration . This was the secret Continuity of Government (COG) program run by the National Program Office that continued up to and after the attacks of September 11. [227] Other than Clarke, the members of the COG group included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, George H.W. Bush, Kenneth Duberstein, and James Woolsey. [228] If not a formal member of the group, Oliver North reported to it and acted on its behalf. Although Cheney and Rumsfeld were not government employees throughout the twenty years that Clarke participated in this official government program, they both continued to participate. [229]
COG was developed to install a shadow "government in waiting" to replace the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Constitution in the event of a national emergency like a nuclear war. The first and only time that COG was put into action was when Richard Clarke activated it during the 9/ 11 attacks. As of 2002, that shadow government continued to be in effect as an "indefinite precaution." [230] In 1998, Clarke would revise the COG plan for use as a response to a terrorist attack on American soil. Apparently, COG and the shadow government these men created are still in play to this day. [231]
[231] Peter Dale Scott, 'Continuity of Government' Planning: War, Terror and the Supplanting of the U.S. Constitution, Japan Focus
Ryan, Kevin (2013-06-14). Another Nineteen: Investigating Legitimate 9/11 Suspects (p. 88).
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Peter Lemkin - 05-09-2013
Hopefully Clarke's next interviewwill be part of legal proceedings in which he is a defendantanswering for his failures related to 9/ 11. When that happens,questions that should be posed to him include the following:
- Is the COG plan that you and Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, George H.W. Bush, Kenneth Duberstein, and James Woolsey created, and that you implemented on 9/ 11, still in effect?
- 2. Do you have any information on how your friends in the UAE royal family used the terrorist network BCCI after they bought it
- 3.Do you have any explanation for how you could have predicted in 1998, at the same time that you updated the COG plan to be a response to a terrorist attack, that America's enemies "will go after our Achilles' heel" which is "in Washington. It is in New York."?
- ​4. When you met with UAE Defense Minister Al-Maktoum in February 1999, just days before the CIA planned to kill or capture Bin Laden as he was meeting with UAE royals, who else did you meet with?
- 5. Why did you vote down the CIA plan to kill or capture Bin Laden while he was hunting with UAE royals in February 1999?
6. Why did you expose the CIA's secret plan, without approval from the CIA or the president, to kill or capture Bin Laden in March 1999 as he was meeting with UAE royals again?
7. Don't you think those two actions on your part were far more detrimental to the United States than any of your recent, vague speculations?
8. Did you communicate with NSA Director Michael Hayden between January 2000 and the attacks of 9/ 11? If so, why did you not, in your 2011 interview, accuse him of withholding information on Al-Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar? He has spoken openly of having known about their presence in the U.S. and said that he did share it with the intelligence community.
9. Why did you, as Counterterrorism Czar, take no action in December 1999 when you and the NSC were given the evidence that Khalil Deek's next door neighbor was operating an al Qaeda sleeper cell in Anaheim, CA?
10. You appear to suggest that neither you nor the FBI knew that Al-Mihdhar and Al-Hazmi lived with Abdussattar Shaikh, a tested FBI asset, for at least four months in the year 2000. Is that correct and, if so, don't you think that contradicts your claim that "I know how all this stuff works, I've been working it for 30 years. You can't snowball me on this stuff."? 11. On what evidence did you base your May 29, 2001 memo and your 2004 book, both of which claimed that Abu Zubaydah was a major al Qaeda terrorist? What do you say now that the U.S. government has abandoned those claims?
12. Do you know why the FBI would not allow Abdussattar Shaikh or his FBI handler to be interviewed as part of the 9/ 11 investigation?
13. These days, when you're talking with your UAE friends in your offices in the UAE, do you ever discuss 9/ 11, the hijackers and plotters who spent their time there, and the UAE money that financed the 9/ 11 attacks?
- 5. Why did you vote down the CIA plan to kill or capture Bin Laden while he was hunting with UAE royals in February 1999?
ANOTHER 19 - a new book by Kevin Ryan - Phil Dragoo - 06-09-2013
Benedict Sliney operations manager FAA, former Wall Street attorney, former air traffic controller, Vietnam Air Force veteran; charged with coordinating FAA response. Procedures were in place for FAA to request military assistance in hijack situations. Sliney claimed ignorance; did not so request after first hijacking at 8:15, second in twenty minutes, then third and fourth.
Hijack coordinator Lt Gen Michael Canavan was flying to Puerto Rico. His replacement called in sick. FAA employee John Holley says Canavan was running tabletop simulations very like 9/11.
Chair of Joint Chiefs Hugh Shelton flew to Hungary for NATO conference during attacks.
NORAD commander Gen Ralph Eberhart had set INFOCON to lowest level 12 hrs prior making comnet vulnerable to hacking. Did nothing during attacks. Drove from air base to NORAD, 12 miles took an hour during attacks. Finally ordered fighters from Langley, but "battle stations" not to scramble. When sent, fighters limited to "max subsonic"; fighters sent on wrong heading. All very similar to previous exercises.
Able Guardian exercise in progress during attack; placed simulated data over real hijack data on radar screens.
Eberhart made commander of new NorthCom created after 9/11 in case there is a need for military use in CONUS
Ryan says Cheney headed assassination squad of JSOC after 9/11; Canavan was JSOC commander.
Have Kindle; paperback tomorrow.
Ryan, check six.