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Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum - Peter Lemkin - 20-03-2010
Email from me to JS of 3/6/10 that went unanswered:
Quote:To: John Simkin <johnsimkinxxxxx@xxxxxx>
Subject: Greg Burnham's biography thread
John, In the mildest tones I warned someone I know well Greg, that there were 'tricksters' on the Forum....no names, not specific as to what I meant....Andy condems this and asks me to withdraw it [NEVER!], yet in the next post Len Colby calls me an 'insane asshole' and that goes without moderation or comment....some Forum...some fairness. I get put on permanet moderation for nothing. One of the most obvious 'tricksters' who even outdid my wildest expectations [his sources and masters must have told him who Greg is and to attack him, IMO!] shows up - on cue....Andy acts as if I must be an ambassador to his viewpoints on the forum if I'm a moderator. For that he has Evan. As a moderator, I am supposed to have my own viewpoints and be able to express them I would think...but Andy sees it differently as does Evan, Len, Craig and Andy...the gang of Four. Peter
Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum - Peter Lemkin - 20-03-2010
To J.S. from me the day before 3/5/10 and also unanswered - ever:
Quote:To: John Simkin <johnsimkinxxxx@xxxxxx>
Subject: I have just tried to post
John, my post from two days ago has not yet shown up. Andy will sit on and disapprove all of my posts [my guess - want to make a bet?]. I just posted a few others, I should have copied and pasted to you too, but forgot...they will never see the light of day, though they break no Forum rules. Most every moderator except E.B. has expressed their dismay at the lack of due process. I was set-up, convicted in secret by one man, sentenced by one man and now serving that sentence without ever being presented evidence of 'guilt' or the ability to defend myself. Is this the Andy Walker Forum or the Education Forum? Everyone is wondering where your voice is in this matter. It is silent and the silence is chilling to me and others. Hoping against hope. Peter Lemkin
Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum - Peter Lemkin - 20-03-2010
Earlier in the same day, and also never answered:
Quote:To: John Simkin <johnsimkinxxxxx@xxxxxxx>
Subject: log on
John, Again, as in recent days I can NOT log on to the Forum. In one try out of perhaps 20 I do log on, I can NOT move to another page without being logged off. I can, of course not go to Andy about this. I will soon document how every one of his attacks and insinuations, even defamatory and bullying tactics and comments were wrong. I'm sorry you and others apparently have fallen for them prima facie without investigation. Many are emailing me privately about Lee being unstable and easy to anger. I never bullied Dolva - can prove. I never harrassed Cigdim - can prove and so on.....so Andy has built up a portfolio of false crimes he created out of whole cloth and I'm to be given one 'more chance' with his spitting on the idea. I might just leave the Forum anyway. I'd leave with regrets, but before I leave I'm going to prove that petty little pedant and bullyboy private school snob wrong. What original research has he done or reported upon? What has he done in the JFK or political conspiracy section except cast ad homs and attacks, tossed in doubt and slams? His teammates Len, Craig, Evan and a few irregulars work in concert and now in concert against me. Most unfair. I just lost my job and struggle to keep a roof over my head and find a new one and really don't have the time to search for hundreds of hours to find the posts to prove my points and the private emails to do same. Most of the PMs that would vindicate me I had to erase to save space. It is a set-up and, yes, a conspiracy by Mr. Walker - sad to say. I'm very disappointed in the Forum at this point. Evan protected over and over Len and Craig for political reasons. Attacked Jack and me and others for political reasons. Evan closed more threads he didn't like, combined others to narrow their visiability and decided who's name would remain on it [never mine], etc. He conspired outside of the Forum to 'get Jack' with others [have the proofs] and single-handedly destroyed Duane and lied to you to be annoyed at him [and others]. He wanted to re-arrange all 911 threads which he loathes....suspicous?...but not touch all the Craig/Len complaint threads about me or Jack or others...suspicious...nor to combine the JFK threads or others he supports and wants as visible as possible. He has closed threads that didn't need closing other than he didn't like the posts information and I'm brought to 'book' - not Evan. Have I ever done anything like that? Have I ever put anyone on moderation? A trap was set and sprung and if you can't see it, perhaps I should just leave and let the EF continue its collapse...slow, but steady. How about the mods who do NOTHING to almost nothing. I feel I can defend each and every accusation, but apparently the judge, jury and execution have already been had without hearing evidence. I sent a large amount of materials to Walker last night and will send others when I have time to research the forum from Google. I don't take lightly to false accusations - more so without a mechanism to defend myself. Take your friend Charles Robert Dunne's 'take' on Andy in the Voodoo History thread - it is the best I've seen and truthful to a fault. Peter
Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum - Peter Lemkin - 20-03-2010
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:To the EF: restore Peter Lemkin's posts or send them to him on a DVD.
To Peter Lemkin: once you have your posts, vow never to go anywhere near the EF again.
Now, clear this crock up so that DPF can continue its core function of investigating and evaluating deep political actions.
Jan, DPF members, I know I am wearing thin some of your hospitality and indulgence. It will be totally impossible for me to ever step foot in that Swamp again - nor would they allow it...so that is not a problem. I want my posts up AND on DVD and I want my honor and name cleared....then there will be silence and any fool who wants can be lured into the trap set there.....along with all the good information and the disinformation agents and provocateurs - including one of the administrators, sadly. JS you had the perfect opportunity with AW's resignation...that you didn't leave it - and asked him back; when any computer savvy teen could have done the same, without the rancor and hate, shocked me. More so that with his enmity for me and wrongdoing toward me in actions and words you allowed him to vote - a vote that never should have been taken IMO, and more so without my being presented with the charges/evidence and allowed to defend myself. You have fallen on your own petard and can not blame other for that. A.W. has fallen on more than that. I can PROVE the avatar of Dunn is actually AW. Is such a travesty allowed there? Is silencing someone trying to defend oneself allowed there? Are arbitrary decisions to put one on permanent moderation allowed there? Are persons voted [when no vote was called for and no defense allowed] down as moderator then instantly have their IP blocked and posts erased? What kind of truth seeking, democratic forum are you?! I alienated many here by becoming a mod there and not leaving. I believed in that place and for a long time in JS [NEVER in AW]..and was betrayed by both, in their own ways, but in synchrony. About 300 per day from the EF are looking at the posts here. I try to present the truth and document it. There is so much good information on the EF - some of it I felt mine and now gone...but much more by others!.....but the moral question stands above the information itself. Let the chips fall where they may....
In a short answer, Jan, you don't have to worry about my being again at the EF...they'd not allow it and I'd not go there!.....
Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum - Peter Lemkin - 20-03-2010
I see no one has dared tempt the 'gods' by posting anything on the last extant thread in support [or even bashing of] me....John Simkin has scared everyone into silence and compliance. What a nice Gulag.....with such nice masters...such fair masters...such a free speech area that those who would support me or post my gagged words there would be summarily lynched and gagged [as was I]. I guess power corrupts - the old axiom is true - sadly true.
Well, it was 'interesting' and a surprise to me. I had learned so much there, but also be abused so much there. I offered to show JS posts others [some of his favorite griffins] had posted on other forums against members on the EF, but he didn't take me up on the offer. Some were even plotting how to 'get' those they didn't like on the EF. What goes around, comes around. I have privately sent JS my conditions to end this thread and not post all of the rest of the missing threads...so he, not I are in control of what happens at this point. His pitbull Walker who announced he'd be leaving [after voting to expel me to hell in the guise of just voting me out of moderation post] is still holding forth. The draconian pronouncements of JS have even my most ardent supporters and those neutral of confused silent - it could be the USSR under Stalin or China under the Cultural Revolution - but no, it is the UK today under Commissars of a different ilk. One, IMO, unwilling to admit to a series of mistakes and misteps - even if not all by himself; the other a venal character fully aware of what he did and why. I don't think we'll see more posts from 'Dunn'; and I doubt the other Admin will even check to see if 'Dunn' and Walker have the same IP or can be traced to the same entity [see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil - the best policy if embarrassment is to be avoided]. I KNOW that something 'Dunn' said was ONLY known by Walker - given to him by me. There are only two possibilities - both rather sinster. One is that Walker told Dunn the information to post to harm me further; the other more likely is they are one and the same. And I'm accused of what?! I want to hear the charges. My head was chopped off before they were read - even to the 'voters' [although a good game of whispering and innuendo was played out] and I never was given a chance to defend against them. Fair play? No way! Rationalized? You can bet your ass they have been...but I'll bet no one but the trolls are 'buying' it. Shocked by my tone....not surprised, but remember I was gagged, hogtied, chained and dragged behind a pick-up until they thought I was dead.....those that saw the events are kept from speaking now. They hope that all will 'just' eventually go back to normal. I don't think so, as I warned JS weeks before this all happened. We all have to live with what happened and the consequences. Time moves in only one direction. People can apologize, however. I am sure I have nothing to apologize for; I'll leave it to others to decide for themselves if they do, or if they think some others do. A few good friends who didn't come to my defense will not be named - but I'm most very aware of who you are and wonder why. Most likely to preserve your posting privileges there. How sad, that takes priority over morality and what if fair and right - for me or anyone else. And we wonder why we never make much progress....the answer is there in the sentence prior. For me it has been a most bitter experience. I was down 'for the count' on matters unrelated to the EF, and that though all knew that they heaped new misery and ill will, harm on me shows me why we don't make progress on the big issues - I'm NOT a big issue - except to be an example of how most people treat all issues and people. You all have to sleep with what you have done. Some did the right thing. Some the evil thing. Most were just Sheeple and said nothing, did nothing. Just as in the real world. More tomorrow from the hidden EF black hole.
Just Was Removed By Walker On Other Forum - The Moderators - 21-03-2010
The DPF moderators have decided to lock this thread because it is diverting attention away from the important deep political actions which we should be investigating, and because the events described can only be resolved by another forum.
We at DPF have numerous complaints about the way the EF is run, which is why we are no longer there.
Crucially, the management of the EF have allowed clear disinformation "constructs", whose spelling and literacy levels change depending on whose shift it is, free rein to disrupt important research and harass the most gifted researchers still left at EF. This is a gross abuse of the principle of freedom of speech, and greatly obstructs those who are searching for the truth.
The EF is finished as a venue where serious, intelligent and ground-breaking research can be shared and discussed.
However, the events described in this thread can only be resolved by the party and the forum involved: Peter Lemkin and the EF.