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Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Ed Jewett - 12-10-2011 U.S. Claims to Have Disrupted Iranian Terror PlotOctober 12th, 2011Oh, well, if Tom Kean is on board, there should be no doubts at all about the veracity of these claims. *chortle*Via: CNN: The FBI and the DEA have disrupted a plot involving Iran to kill the Saudi ambassador to the United States and commit other attacks, according to the U.S. Justice Department. Two men one arrested, the other at large have been charged in connection with the plot, which the Justice Department says was directed by elements of the Iranian government. The Justice Department says one of the men Manssor Arbabsiar, a naturalized U.S. citizen holding an Iranian passport arranged to hire for the assassination someone in Mexico who he thought was an associate of a drug trafficking cartel. The person in Mexico actually was a DEA confidential source who was posing as a cartel associate, the Justice Department says. Follow below for the latest developments and read the Justice Department complaint (PDF). [Updated at 7:41 p.m. ET] Tom Kean, former chairman of the 9/11 Commission said the alleged plot "surprises me." Speaking to CNN's Erin Burnett, Kean said the plot is "pretty close to an act of war. You don't go in somebody's capital to blow somebody up." Research Credit: RD Posted in COINTELPRO, Dictatorship, False Flag Operations, War Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Peter Lemkin - 12-10-2011 Quote:"pretty close to an act of war. You don't go in somebody's capital to blow somebody up.".......hmmm.....when was the last time that the US did something like that [go to someone's country and capitol and blow up one or a million or two?!]....how many times!? Hypocrites and liars, with invented 'terror' scenarios! :unclesam:
Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Ed Jewett - 13-10-2011 Sealed amended Iranian terror complaint (pdf) http://therearenosunglasses.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/iranian-terror-complaint-amended.pdf **** Iranians charged as US foils plot to assassinate Saudi ambassador1210 2011[The way things are, the Saudis may want to treat this as an act of war. It sounds like the typical false flag set-up. The alleged Iranian "Revolutionary Guard" bosses who allegedly hired the Mexican? gangster for the attack could easily have been just another bit player in another American "soap opera." Maybe this is why Blackberries were blacked-out from N. Africa to Europe yesterday and today--they didn't want texters to spill their beans?]Iranians charged as US foils plot to assassinate Saudi ambassador
http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/iranians-charged-as-us-foils-plot-to-assassinate-saudi-ambassador/ **** WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2011A much more plausible storyI'll have more to say on the silly Americans and their Iranian assassination plot (though I have no reason to change anything I said yesterday and am even more convinced that this is the consolation prize for the fangs of the Jewish billionaires who really want a million dead gentiles in Iran), but in the meantime the Angry Arab has some more info. Actually, a phony plot by an opponent of the Iranian government hangs together quite well, unlike Holder's ridiculous story. AT [URL="http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2011/10/much-more-plausible-story.html"]10/12/2011 12:42:00 PM [/URL][[url=http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2011/10/much-more-plausible-story.html][/url]bold emphasis by Ed Jewett] The link with the "info" is in Arabic, and I don't read Arabic. Does someone here? See next post.... Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Ed Jewett - 13-10-2011 Oops, it's not this one, but the one linked to in this posting... Wednesday, October 12, 2011The Iranian plot in the US: more infoWell, Gulf students in Texas area have come up with an important detail about the accused. Apparently, he was an opponent of the Iranian regime. So wait: we have a new important detail. The Iranian government contacted an opponent of the regime to undertake an assassination and bombing plot in the US. So he went and sought the help of drug gangs in Mexico. OK. It is now making more sense.
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وقال الشمري ÙÙŠ ØØ¯ÙŠØ« مع "العربية" أنه لم يعد أمام الرئيس الأمريكي باراك أوباما سوى Ø§Ù„ØØ²Ù… تجاه إيران بعد الكش٠عن Ù…ØØ§ÙˆÙ„Ø© الاغتيال Ø§Ù„ÙØ§Ø´Ù„ة، مشيرا إلى أنه لم يعد هناك مناص أمام أوباما سوى الأخذ بآراء "الصقور" ÙÙŠ إدارته. ![]() عبدالله الشمري ÙˆØ£ÙˆØ¶Ø Ø£Ù† مثل هذه العمليات ليست غريبة عن طهران، ØÙŠØ« سبق لها ان استعانت بعصابات Ù…Ø³Ù„ØØ© وتنظيمات إرهابية مثل القاعدة لاغتيال دبلوماسيين سعوديين ÙÙŠ أنقرة وبانكوك وطهران. وتابع: "ربما تكون هناك جهات إيرانية اتخذت قرار اغتيال الجبير دون التنسيق Ùيما بينها، ولذلك جاء بيان وزارة الخارجية الإيرانية ناÙيا الموضوع، وأعتقد أنه يجب أن يكون هناك موق٠خليجي Ù…ÙˆØØ¯ تجاه إيران بعد كش٠خيوط هذه المؤامرة، كما ينبغي على المجتمع الدولي أن يضطلع بمسؤولياته بشأن هذا الأمر". Ø£ØÙ…دي نجاد بين برلين وواشنطن![]() Ù†Ø¬Ø§Ø Ù…ØÙ…د علي من جانبه Ø£ÙˆØ¶Ø Ø§Ù„Ø¥Ø¹Ù„Ø§Ù…ÙŠ الخبير بالشؤون الإيرانية Ù†Ø¬Ø§Ø Ù…ØÙ…د علي أن من الصعب التكهن بمن يق٠وراء Ù…ØØ§ÙˆÙ„Ø© عملية الاغتيال هذه، مشيرا إلى أن هناك Ø®Ù„Ø§ÙØ§Øª كبيرة بين Ø§Ù„ÙØ±ÙŠÙ‚ المؤيد للمرشد آية الله خامنئي المعروÙين بـ"التيار الأصولي" وبين المؤيدين للرئيس الإيراني Ù…ØÙ…ود Ø£ØÙ…دي نجاد. وتابع ÙÙŠ ØØ¯ÙŠØ«Ù‡ لـ"العربية": "ربما يكون Ø£ØÙ…دي نجاد يعمل مع جهة ÙÙŠ (Ùيلق القدس)ØŒ ØÙŠØ« كان هو Ø£ØØ¯ اعضاء هذا الÙيلق، وبعد ØªÙˆÙ‚Ù Ø§Ù„ØØ±Ø¨ العراقية الإيرانية كان Ø£ØØ¯ الضالعين ÙÙŠ اغتيال الناشط الإيراني الكردي البارز عبد الرØÙ…Ù† قاسملو زعيم Ø§Ù„ØØ²Ø¨ الديمقراطي الكوردستاني الإيراني الذي تم قتله ÙÙŠ النمسا ÙÙŠ 13 يوليو/تموز 1989ØŒ كما كان Ø£ØÙ…دي نجاد ضالعا ÙÙŠ اغتيال خلÙÙ‡ صادق شرÙكندلي ÙÙŠ مقهى بالعاصمة الألمانية برلين ÙÙŠ عام 1992. ÙˆØ£Ø¶Ø§Ù Ù†Ø¬Ø§Ø Ù…ØÙ…د علي: "من خلال التشابه بين عملية برلين ÙˆØ§Ù„Ù…ØØ§ÙˆÙ„Ø© Ø§Ù„ÙØ§Ø´Ù„Ø© لاغتيال السÙير السعودي ربما يكون Ø£ØÙ…دي نجاد له يد ÙÙŠ هذا الأمر، ولكن لا يمكن الجزم بذلك، وعلينا انتظار التØÙ‚يقات". وعن رؤيته لمستقبل العلاقات بين الرياض وطهران بعد هذه Ø§Ù„ØØ§Ø¯Ø«Ø©ØŒ قال: " إذا ثبت أن المرشد آية الله خامنئي كان يعر٠بالعملية أو مواÙقا عليها ÙØ¥Ù† ذلك سيؤدي بلا شك إلى تدهور خطير ÙÙŠ العلاقات بين البلدين، ولكن Ù†Ù„Ø§ØØ¸ من ØªØµØ±ÙŠØØ§Øª رئيس البرلمان علي لاريجاني المؤيد لخامنئي والتي قال Ùيها إن العلاقات بين السعودية وإيران طبيعية، مما يشير إلى وجود خلا٠كبير بين خامنئي وأØÙ…دي نجاد، ØÙŠØ« لم يكن المرشد مواÙقا على طريقة تعاطي الرئيس الإيراني مع Ø§Ù„Ø£ØØ¯Ø§Ø« ÙÙŠ Ø§Ù„Ø¨ØØ±ÙŠÙ† أو التعاطي ÙÙŠ العلاقات مع السعودية". "منصور عرب"من جانب آخر، قال Ùيصل الÙيصل، وهو Ø§ØØ¯ الذين عايشوا منصور اربابسيار المتهم Ø¨Ù…ØØ§ÙˆÙ„Ø© اغتيال السÙير السعودي: "منصور كان يلقب لدينا بـ"منصور عرب" ÙÙŠ مدينة إلباسو ÙÙŠ ولاية تكساس، وكان ÙŠØØ¨ الاختلاط بالسعوديين والكويتيين، ÙˆÙŠØØ¨ Ù…Ø¹Ø±ÙØ© كل شيء عن عاداتنا ÙˆØ«Ù‚Ø§ÙØ§ØªÙ†Ø§ وطرق عيشنا وأنظمة ØÙƒÙ…نا وما إلى ذلك. وتابع الÙيصل ÙÙŠ اتصال هاتÙÙŠ من الكويت مع "العربية": "أدخل منصور بيننا على اعتباره معارضا إيرانيا ومن أهل السنة والجماعة، وكنا نعط٠عليه ونساعده ماديا، ÙˆÙ†Ø¯ÙØ¹ لها Ø£ØÙŠØ§Ù†Ø§ إيجار شقته، ÙˆØØªÙ‰ سنتين خلت كان اتواصل معه هاتÙيا ومن خلال رؤيتي لصورته التي تم نشرها أجزم بنسبة مئة بالمئة أنه Ù†ÙØ³ الشخص". 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Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Bernice Moore - 13-10-2011 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-12/ex-cia-warns-us-dangerously-wrong-on-iran/3553704?section=world ex cia warns usa dangerously rong on Iran.. http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/01-843/ Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Magda Hassan - 13-10-2011 The defendant was claiming to be from the Sunnis and the Arab group and Associates Tehran used the armed gangs and terrorist organizations of the assassination of Saudi diplomats Wednesday 14 November 1432 - October 12, 2011 m Chairman of the agreement for the Saudi "Arab. Net": ceremonial meeting a success but without the support "Arab Net" review "fifth," the Saudi league contract statistics Algerian Rabah Madjer a goodwill ambassador for UNESCO Hilal gives Hawsawi weeks and consistent with Shalhoub and the rest are waiting for A video showing Warner discusses the financial gifts Bin Hammam Saudi Ambassador in the United States Dubai - Arabic. Ntaattabr Saudi political analyst Abdullah Al-Shammari that the conspiracy of the assassination of the Saudi ambassador to the United States would have been a "September 11" Small if he had wrote to her success. Al-Shammari said in an interview with "Arab," it is no longer in front of U.S. President Barack Obama, only packets toward Iran after the disclosure of the assassination attempt failed, indicating that there is no alternative to Obama but to adopt the views of the "hawks" in his administration. Abdullah Al-Shammari He explained that such operations are not alien to Tehran, where it had previously used armed gangs and terrorist organizations like al-Qaeda for the assassination of Saudi diplomats in Bangkok, Ankara and Tehran. He continued: "There may be points of Iran has taken the decision to assassinate al-Jubeir, without coordination among themselves, hence the statement of the Iranian Foreign Ministry denied the subject, and I think that there should be a stand unified against Iran after unravel this conspiracy, as the international community should be undertaken its responsibilities on this matter. " Ahmadinejad between Berlin and Washington The success of Muhammad Ali For his part, the media expert on the Iranian success of Muhammad Ali, it is difficult to speculate who was behind the attempt the assassination, noting that there are substantial differences between the pro Guide, Ayatollah Khamenei, known as the "mainstream fundamentalist" and supporters of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He continued in his interview for "Arab": "Maybe Ahmadinejad is working with the hand in (Quds Force), where he was one of the members of this Corps, and after the war ended the Iran-Iraq was one of those involved in the assassination of activist Iranian prominent Kurdish Abdul Rahman Ghassemlou leader of the Democratic Party Iranian Kurdistan, who was killed in Austria on July 13, 1989, as Ahmadinejad was involved in the assassination of his successor Sadeq Cherfkindla cafe in the German capital of Berlin in 1992. The success of the Muhammad Ali: "Through the process of similarity between Berlin and the failed attempt to assassinate the Saudi ambassador Ahmadinejad may have a hand in this, but can not really say that, and we wait for the investigations." About his vision for the future of relations between Riyadh and Tehran after the incident, said: "If it is proved that the Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei was known as process or approved, this will undoubtedly lead to a serious deterioration in relations between the two countries, but the note of the statements made by the parliament, Ali Larijani, the pro-Khamenei and which he said that relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran, normal, indicating that there is considerable disagreement between Khamenei and Ahmadinejad, where the guide did not agree to the Iranian president's handling of events in Bahrain, or engage in relations with Saudi Arabia. " "Mansour Arabs." Meanwhile, Faisal al-Faisal, one of those who lived through the Mansour Arbabsear accused of trying to assassinate the Saudi ambassador: "Mansour was known to have a" Mansour Arabs "in the city of El Paso, Texas, and liked to mingle with Saudis and Kuwaitis, and loves to know everything about our customs and cultures and ways to live, judging systems and so on. He said al-Faisal in a telephone interview from Kuwait with the "Arab": "Enter Mansour us to mind the opponent of Iranian and the Sunnis and the community, and we were Nataf him and help him financially, and pay them sometimes rent his apartment, and even two years ago was able to communicate with him by telephone and through the vision of the image that has been published by one hundred percent for sure that the same person. " Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Ed Jewett - 13-10-2011 Alleged assassination plot heightens Iran-Saudi tension Allegations that Iran sought to kill the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. have given rise to new drama. It comes as the two Mideast powers seek to outmaneuver each other at a time of regional upheaval. [TABLE="width: 1"]
[TR] [TD] For all their disputes, Saudi Arabia, guardian of the great shrines of Islam, and Iran have much in common: They are strongly religious oil powers buttressing their repressive governments against voices of reform. (Shamil Zhumatov, Reuters / February 6, 2003)[/TD][/TR] [/TABLE] By Jeffrey Fleishman and Patrick J. McDonnell, Los Angeles Times October 13, 2011 Reporting from Cairo and Beirut The two Middle Eastern powers have been battling for preeminence in the Muslim world for decades but the alleged Iranian plot to assassinate a Saudi Arabian ambassador has heightened the tension between them during a time of intense regional upheaval. The new drama has arisen as Saudi Arabia and Iran seek to outmaneuver each other in matters such as the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the future of Iraq and the bloody political uprisings sweeping much of the region. Their mistrust, fueled in part by sectarian strain, is sharpened by Iran's nuclear development program and Saudi Arabia's long-standing ties to the U.S., Tehran's most potent enemy. If the assassination scheme is true it would "represent a very serious ratcheting up of what has emerged as one of the most critical … confrontations in the Middle East," said Rami G. Khouri, director of the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs at the American University of Beirut. "Iran backs a revolutionary political export movement that scares the daylights out of the Saudis." The animosity between the Sunni Muslim monarchy in Riyadh and the Shiite Muslim theocracy in Tehran has played out for years in diplomatic back channels and in proxy conflicts from Iraq toLebanon. A 2008 State Department cable quoted the Saudi ambassador to Washington, Adel al-Jubeir, the target of the alleged assassination plot, as saying his country wanted the U.S. to launch military strikes on Iran "to cut the head off the snake." With their vast oil reserves and ultraconservative schools of Islam, the two countries are now adjusting strategies to address upheavals that have threatened autocrats in nations including Syria andBahrain, transforming the political calculus of the Arab world. As they recalibrate regional agendas, Saudi King Abdullah and Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also face internal pressure for change. Since the 1979 revolution that overthrew the U.S.-backed shah, Iran has assumed the mantle of a revolutionary Islamic state thumbing its nose at Washington and its chief regional ally, Israel. The Shiite republic's brash polemics and uncompromising stance toward the West have won admiration and partly inspired young activists across the region. The Sunni monarchy of Saudi Arabia, guardians of the great shrines of Islam, has often found itself on the defensive, inextricably tied to its unpopular political patron, the United States, and unable to react nimbly to events. For all their disputes, they are much alike: strongly religious oil powers buttressing their repressive governments against voices of reform. Iran could feel additional strain if the assassination plot allegations draw new international economic sanctions that increase its isolation. Recent statements clearly suggest this is on the minds of Iran's leaders. "The Americans have launched a stupid mischief," said Ali Larijani, speaker of the Iranian parliament. "Maybe they are after creating an artificial crisis and creating problems among regional countries.... There is no reason for Iran to carry out these childish actions." Strain between Saudi Arabia and Iran has already grown as a result of the "Arab Spring" movement that unfolded across the region early this year. Riyadh sent hundreds of troops into neighboring Sunni-controlled Bahrain in March to help crush an uprising by the majority Shiite population. Although the protests against Bahrain's royal family erupted over Shiite claims of discrimination, the Saudis said Iran orchestrated the unrest in a ploy to destabilize the Persian Gulf through sectarian strife. Syria is another crucial test. Syrian President Bashar Assad, a longtime ally of Iran, has for months ordered his security forces to brutally suppress antigovernment protests. The ruling Assad family belongs to the Alawite sect an offshoot of Shiite Islam and is pivotal to Iran's influence not only in Syria but also in Lebanon, where Tehran backs the militant group Hezbollah as a counterbalance to Israel. If Saudi Arabia were to provide financial and weapons support to the protesters in Syria, the majority of whom are Sunnis, it could severely weaken or even topple Assad, leaving Iran without an important proxy. Such a gambit by Saudi Arabia would also suggest that its biggest ally, the U.S., was prepared to be more aggressive in pushing Assad from power and checking Iran's regional ambitions. "This could break the Syrian-Iranian bridge," said Nabil Abdel Fattah of Al Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo. "The downfall of Assad's regime would eventually revive Saudi Arabia's role in the region at the expense of Iran." Hilal Khashan, a political scientist at the American University of Beirut, said the U.S. arrest of an Iranian American suspect in the foiled assassination comes as a Syrian opposition umbrella group, the Syrian National Council, is lobbying for recognition from foreign governments. "This means that the U.S. is ready now for a more active role in Syrian affairs," he predicted. Relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran worsened after the 1979 Iranian revolution when the theocracy of Ayatollah Khomeini challenged the legitimacy of the Saudi royal family, underlining centuries of sectarian resentment. The tone spurred a race between the two countries for influence in a Middle East seeking to economically and politically capitalize on petrodollars. There is no suggestion of imminent military conflict between Riyadh and Tehran, but they have been entangled for years in Shiite and Sunni bloodshed in post-Saddam Hussein Iraq and in the support of opposing Palestinian factions. Iran has been blamed for a number of assassinations and terrorist attacks in the region, including the 1996 bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia that killed 19 U.S. service members. Passions have been further inflamed by Iran's nuclear development program, which the West and Saudi Arabia say is aimed at producing nuclear weapons. Tehran says the program is for civilian and medical purposes and says Saudi Arabia is part of a conspiracy to contain Iran. A unified front against Iran would also repair U.S.-Saudi relations, which have been strained by Washington's support for pro-democracy movements across the region. Political analyst Khouri and others doubt that Iran was behind the latest assassination attempt. "If the Iranians were involved in this kind of plot, I don't think they'd chose this kind of guy to do it," Khouri said by telephone from the United States. "They're much more professional." jeffrey.fleishman@latimes.com [EMAIL="patrick.mcdonnell@latimes.com"]patrick.mcdonnell@latimes.com [/EMAIL] Fleishman reported from Cairo and McDonnell from Beirut. News assistant Amro Hassan of The Times' Cairo bureau and special correspondent Ramin Mostaghim in Tehran contributed to this report. Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Ed Jewett - 13-10-2011 Magda Hassan Wrote:..... Thank you for the translation, Magda. Now, as usual, we begin to examine the meaning. We here in the US are notorious for not understanding the subtleties and nuances within the Arabic world. Most in the US would just as soon bomb the residents or shoot them or at least exploit them before we understand them. My own library on things Islamic grows faster than my comprehension; perhaps their will be time enough? Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says - Peter Lemkin - 13-10-2011 :joystick:This is clearly a drama piece constructed out of whole cloth [black op weave] in order to have an EXCUSE to attack or threaten Iran - long our would-be Masters' dream. I'm surprised to find even Al Jazeera is 'buying' the story at this point! One would expect the MSM to do so, as they have no choice to do otherwise [and anyone who'd have challenged was long ago vetted out of those organizations [or organs]. The Propaganda Machinery is very powerful and all too many believe it - even though time and time again and again it is proven wrong [later] after a war or covert op or whatever. Will the People never learn?! Of course some are not fooled - but all too many are. All toooooooo many! :nono: |