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Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Drew Phipps - 10-02-2016 We could still become fascist through free elections if we aren't careful in 2016. Did Powers truly blame Oswald for his being shot down? I see from Amazon preview that Powers' book Operation Oversight" on page 318 mentions Oswald, but for some reason I can't preview that page even when signed in... Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Anthony Thorne - 11-02-2016 Oswald attended the Powers trial, and Walt Brown noted that a crowd pic of the trial audience in an earlier book on the incident appears to have Oswald in it. Walt Brown's theory - argued in detail in Brown's ebook on the shootdown (linked below) - is that Oswald was sent to Russia as a prepared patsy to take the blame for an eventual U2 crash - 'he was a Communist, he was at Atsugi' etc etc - but his part became untenable when Powers survived the event and began giving awkward details to his interrogators. Shortly after this Oswald, perhaps smelling a rat, bought a hunting rifle for protection and began agitating to return to the US. Thereafter, Dulles and co were left with an unused patsy who could now be unknowingly put forth for other uses. http://www.amazon.com/Master-Chronology-JFK-Assassination-Appendix-ebook/dp/B00G4F1Q5I/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1455151349&sr=1-1&keywords=walt+brown+u2 Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Marlene Zenker - 11-02-2016 Peter Lemkin Wrote:If you put Mae Brussell in our Forum search engine several threads will turn up...more will if you do it in google or other search engine and specify this Forum's url. I have several of her shows as mp3 files and one can buy them all on line now. She published several articles in various magazines. Live audience talks by Mae did happen - but were very rare. At the end of her life [the last years] she didn't go out much, and was getting death threats. As I said, the mysterious house that had cars with blackened windows drive in and out, usually at night, burned to the ground on the very day she died.....coincidence or conspiracy...I say most probably the latter. She was on to something very hot in her last months!..and she knew it - but Mae was on to hot stuff all along!!!. Last I heard, her archive is still in active contention as to who has control and what should be done with it...very sad...it is invaluable and has likely had some things removed by now. John Judge was a major in that battle, but with his sad death, I don't know who has taken over his efforts to see them put into an archive intact. I know one daughter doesn't want her letters to be part of the archive, but they are some of the best parts..she got letters from and to everyone..but that is another matter for another time. I think I posted on that here about three years back. From Baylor last July (2015)... Thank you for your gift to the JFK Collection Fund to assist in securing the Mae Brussell Collection. We appreciate your enthusiasm in supporting this acquisition. Unfortunately, Baylor University (W. R. Poage Legislative Library) and Ms. Diane Brussell could not work out an agreement for this transfer and the collection will remain with the Brussell Family. I am writing to inform you of this recent development and provide you with three options for the redistribution of your gift from the JFK Collection Fund. Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Peter Lemkin - 11-02-2016 Marlene Zenker Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:If you put Mae Brussell in our Forum search engine several threads will turn up...more will if you do it in google or other search engine and specify this Forum's url. I have several of her shows as mp3 files and one can buy them all on line now. She published several articles in various magazines. Live audience talks by Mae did happen - but were very rare. At the end of her life [the last years] she didn't go out much, and was getting death threats. As I said, the mysterious house that had cars with blackened windows drive in and out, usually at night, burned to the ground on the very day she died.....coincidence or conspiracy...I say most probably the latter. She was on to something very hot in her last months!..and she knew it - but Mae was on to hot stuff all along!!!. Last I heard, her archive is still in active contention as to who has control and what should be done with it...very sad...it is invaluable and has likely had some things removed by now. John Judge was a major in that battle, but with his sad death, I don't know who has taken over his efforts to see them put into an archive intact. I know one daughter doesn't want her letters to be part of the archive, but they are some of the best parts..she got letters from and to everyone..but that is another matter for another time. I think I posted on that here about three years back. Thanks. I missed that. Sad, as I don't believe the family will make it available to the public in some alternative way. They have the legal right, but I'd argue not the moral right here...unless they take it to another archive. Last I heard it was in two locations, and have no idea if it still is or not. It appears now to be lost to history and the family [at least for now]....very sad. I don't think Mae would have wanted this....she was always trying to get the information OUT, and to share it. What is the family afraid of or unhappy with?! N.B. This is not the first time a family has done something similar. I was deeply involved in trying to convince the family of the late Tom Wilson to make his archive [collecting dust not far from Dallas, as fate would have it] available to researchers. Mrs. Wilson and one son would simply not allow it, and gave no rational explanation. By the time this part of the family are gone so will most of us who realize the importance of Tom Wilson's work! In this way, things get permanently lost all too often....and they are needed now...as the USA edges closer and closer to total fascism and takeover by a 'select' but hidden minority. The families often are not aware of how important it is for their loved one's work to be made available and simply suggest that everyone else just make due by re-inventing the research done. Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - David Guyatt - 11-02-2016 Peter Lemkin Wrote: Thanks for that Pete. Yes, I'm inclined to agree that they were not per se behind JFK, but formed part of the nexus of the far right who were. Even so the connections are quite startling aren't they - which goes to show, I suppose, quite how pro-Nazi many parts of the US business and political elite were before, during and after WWII. The word sympatico spring to mind. Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Peter Lemkin - 11-02-2016 David Guyatt Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote: Agreed, However, [and I don't want to divert the thread too much] as Mae points out there were some actual Nazi Nazis who played minor roles in the plot. Take for example General Walter Dornberger. He was the SS Gen. in charge of the Nazi/SS missile program. Under him was the more well known von Braun during the war. At the end of the War, Dornberger was held at Special Camp 11 [also called Island Farm Special Camp] in the UK until 1947. Shortly after he was released from British custody he rather magically had an American passport, American security clearances, and was transported to the East Coast of the USA on a military flight. Soon after that he was working in Bell Aviation in the Boston area [if I remember correctly]. Some years later he transferred to Bell in Ft. Worth, TX [sister city to Dallas]. There he very quickly became vice-President of his division in Bell. In 1963 working directly in Dornberger's office and under him was one CIA-linked man named Michael Paine....in who's garage on the 22 November 1963 were most all of LHO's possessions [and some others were conveniently planted there too], and in who's home Marina was staying and Lee had been visiting from time to time. That is not six degrees of separation...that is by my count only one. And there were others...but none of the Nazis played lead roles nor were the instigators of the plot. Persons more akin to Dulles, who was long 'in bed and in bank' with Nazis...but that is for another thread....and he was not alone in this kind of position between American fascist-friendly financier(or warrior)-spooks and European/Eastern fascist financier(or warrior)-spooks. Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Tracy Riddle - 11-02-2016 In the pre-internet days, there was also the Austin-based local-access cable series Alternative Views, which was on for a long time. Many episodes are available online. I remember in the mid-to-late 1980s, growing up in southern California, I managed to get hold of a Bay area punk rock magazine called Maximum Rock'n'Roll, which had some radical/conspiracy stuff in it. http://maximumrocknroll.com/mrr-archives-001/ Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Matthew Poe - 11-02-2016 Very cool stuff, thanks Tracy, I've seen and picked up Maximum Rock and Roll in newsstands but had no idea about the CT legacy. Alternative Voices had some great guests! Emile DeAntonio, my favorite dissident filmmaker, to name one. Peter, What's the word on what's contained in Mae's archive? I can just imagine the wealth of magazines and clippings. Files and files of them. It's odd the family is refusing to make it publicly available. So at one point it was in the hands of Emory and Judge, but it reverted to the family because they couldn't bring the museum to fruition? What a shame... By the way, when you mentioned Mae's daughter Bonnie dying in a car accident it reminded me of something in Praise From a Future Generation. Didn't Shirley Martin's daughter die in similar circumstances, or perhaps she herself was involved in a car crash? I'll have to dig it up I could be off base. Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Peter Lemkin - 12-02-2016 Matthew Poe Wrote:Very cool stuff, thanks Tracy, I've seen and picked up Maximum Rock and Roll in newsstands but had no idea about the CT legacy. Alternative Voices had some great guests! Emile DeAntonio, my favorite dissident filmmaker, to name one. It was not I who mentioned the mysterious death by car 'accident' of Mae's daughter Bonnie, but since it is being brought up, Mae herself felt it was a warning to her. Most of the people I know who knew Mae feel even her cancer death was not 'natural' - any more than the cancer death of Jack Ruby and many others. Interestingly, Ruby, Brussell and many others who were known to displease or be a problem for those who manipulate things from the 'Dark' have died of a rapid-progression form of cancer. Such do exist naturally, but statistically this would not make any sense - and it is well known that the intelligence community did decades of research in how to induce cancer [among other deadly forms of disease and death (or 'accidents/suicides') that look 'natural']. Quote:Mae Brussell Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange - Matthew Poe - 13-02-2016 I don't doubt it, especially having read Ed Haslam's Dr. Mary's Monkey. |