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Aussie PM dumped by own party - Magda Hassan - 27-06-2013 Anthony Thorne Wrote:The photo revealing Shorten's grim expression just prior to entering the room to vote was one for the ages. As journo Tim Lester (from my home State of Tassie) noted yesterday, Shorten hates Rudd, Rudd despises Shorten, and for Shorten to re-empower the man who would happily drop him off a cliff into a grey ocean would be a large bottle of bitter pills to swallow. Good . I hope he chokes on them. Rudd should drop him off the cliff. Apart from being a duplicious two faced traitorous power mad Machiavellian wrecker he spends waaaay to much time visiting the US embassy to take his marching orders to have any thing to do with Australian politics. I'm pleased he did what he did last night though. Now he can just ffffffade away. And hopefully take his other traitorous friends of Washington with him. Aussie PM dumped by own party - Peter Lemkin - 27-06-2013 Magda Hassan Wrote:Anthony Thorne Wrote:The photo revealing Shorten's grim expression just prior to entering the room to vote was one for the ages. As journo Tim Lester (from my home State of Tassie) noted yesterday, Shorten hates Rudd, Rudd despises Shorten, and for Shorten to re-empower the man who would happily drop him off a cliff into a grey ocean would be a large bottle of bitter pills to swallow. A change for the better, it seems to me, from afar. How'd this happen?! I mean, we rarely expect good outcomes in politics, these days! Might this have any effect on how Oz deals with Assange at all. Any other likely practical effects - other than not so supinely taking orders from D.C.? Aussie PM dumped by own party - Magda Hassan - 27-06-2013 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Anthony Thorne Wrote:The photo revealing Shorten's grim expression just prior to entering the room to vote was one for the ages. As journo Tim Lester (from my home State of Tassie) noted yesterday, Shorten hates Rudd, Rudd despises Shorten, and for Shorten to re-empower the man who would happily drop him off a cliff into a grey ocean would be a large bottle of bitter pills to swallow. Well, it was very interesting the way it happened. Gillard was never going to be accepted by the voters for a number of reasons but primarily the way she achieved office. She lacked legitimacy. The voters love Rudd. And in their eyes he was taken from them. There was no way the voters were going to vote for Julia. The party absolutelywould have lost office. But Rudd was so hated by a section of the party that many refused to have him back even if that meant losing office and the government changing to the far far right. As it is 7 ministers resigned their portfolios and several leaving politics altogether rather than work in his government when he was elected to the leadership (again) last night. However, there were enough Rudd supporters and there were enough pragmatists who defied the death wish of the others. The person who was a prime mover behind the coup removing Rudd, Bill Shorten, this time supported him and used the knife against Julia. He is preserving his own tenuous hold on his seat too and has his own leadership plans. One of the cliques that was dead set against him was the Washington/Zionist clique. For their liking he was far too independent of the US and too close to China and he speaks Mandarin too and has a Chinese son in law. His missus is a millionaire several times over so he is not in the game for the money and can't be bribed. He was outraged that Australian passports were used by the murderers of the Palestinian man in Dubai and was demanding answers. He also wanted Assange to have all the legal and consular protections available. While Gillard was slandering Assange and saying that Assange had broken laws and must be punished Rudd was saying that no (Australian) laws were broken. I hope he does some thing concrete for Assange now he is back in office. For sure Assange would have been gladly handed over to the US on a silver platter by Gillard and company. I will be watching with interest if he keeps his independence or caves in to the pressure. I don't suppose too much will be done in the short term as there is a federal elelction in September and this can also be brought forward to August. He still may not actually survive the election. Certainly the opposition are dirty players here and have the big money behind them. But if he wins the election it will be a most interesting time. Aussie PM dumped by own party - Jan Klimkowski - 27-06-2013 Magda, Anthony - it's great to have some analysis of Australian politics I can actually trust. Aussie PM dumped by own party - Magda Hassan - 28-06-2013 Another thing that isn't known by a lot of people is that Bill Shorten, the Labor power broker and lover of Washington who played a key role behind the original coup against Rudd and who this time put his vote in supporting him, well, he is married to the daughter of the Govenor General Quentin Bryce. This interesting article gives a few clues to Bill's interesting connections. [URL="http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/shorten-with-ggs-daughter/story-e6freooo-1111117539805"]http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/shorten-with-ggs-daughter/story-e6freooo-1111117539805 H[/URL]is first wife was a stockbroker and also the daughter of a politician from the so called 'other' party and a grand daughter of the former cabinet minister and Australian ambassador to the US. He is highly ambitious and has leadership aspirations and favored by important people. Aussie PM dumped by own party - Anthony Thorne - 28-06-2013 A worthwhile article by Shaun Carney on the career of Gillard - Carney is an astute writer who was axed from The Age during the last round of Fairfax cuts, but he typically makes good observations: http://theconversation.com/the-political-tragedy-of-julia-gillard-15588 Summary from The Age on Shorten's thought processes over the past fortnight. For newcomers, Shorten is the fellow in the second image down at the following link who looks like he's just won a year's worth of proctological examinations in the lottery. Rudd sits immediately to Shorten's right, keeping his distance as if Shorten has cooties. http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/two-agonising-weeks-before-kingmaker-turned-on-his-queen-20130627-2p06h.html And something to ponder. The day after Rudd regains office, an article appears noting how a cache of explosives has gone missing in Jakarta, and security now needs to be reinforced just prior to Rudd's imminent visit to the country. http://www.smh.com.au/world/dynamite-goes-missing-in-jakarta-on-eve-of-rudd-visit-20130627-2p05k.html Stay safe Kev. Aussie PM dumped by own party - Magda Hassan - 29-06-2013 Slightly hysterical but some salient points made. Quote:The Political Crisis in Australia Aussie PM dumped by own party - Jan Klimkowski - 29-06-2013 Quote:Rudd has been returned to office in anticipation of explosive social upheavals and a new period of class struggle. Good luck Down Under, then....... Aussie PM dumped by own party - Peter Lemkin - 19-07-2013 Is Rudd the PM of Australia, or of Papua New Guinea?! The new 'immigrant' policy is nothing short of ugly and inhumane. If he's 'progressive', I'm the Pope. Aussie PM dumped by own party - Anthony Thorne - 19-07-2013 Rudd may well have a progressive streak in him but the toxic legacy of John Howard's lengthy span in government still lingers. Howard shamelessly used cruel and racist tactics to wedge the opposition, and encouraged national fear-mongering against refugees for the late 2001 election. (The best book on this incident remains Mungo MacCallum's entry in the Quarterly Essay series, GIRT BY SEA: AUSTRALIA, THE REFUGEES AND THE POLITICS OF FEAR.) Labor foolishly capitulated at the time, giving credence to Howard's shaping of the public narrative, then (pathetically) did little of note to reverse things for years later. Howard even stacked the board of the government funded national ABC TV network with conservatives, all of whom gradually dragged the tone of the station to the right and demanded 'equal time' for conservative perspectives on issues such as refugees. Labor also acquiesced to the various radio shock jocks (mostly from Sydney) who Howard courted during his time in Government, rather than shunning them as the domestic equivalent of Fox News mouthpieces. Opposition Leader (conservative) Tony Abbott has spent the last few years proclaiming he'd 'stop the boats', and Gillard stupidly did little to encourage a more humane viewpoint. Without supporting it at all, I read Rudd's latest actions as an attempt to neutralise Abbott prior to the imminent election - Rudd has seemingly been running through a list in the last couple of weeks addressing each of Abbott's cudgels against the government, and this is the latest. (I'm sure Rudd expects few Labor voters to depart over the issue, and the ones that do will vote Green, which preferences the Labor party anyway). If Rudd regains office, I wouldn't be surprised if he works to reframe the narrative again and gradually encourages a more humane perspective, but at this point Rudd is determined to do 'whatever it takes' to hang on to office. |