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07-29-2009, 04:03 AM
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An older article from last year about German interests in Bolivia and their protection there of. Not entirely off topic.
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07-29-2009, 05:41 PM
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Magda - lots of good material in that article.
A lot of familiar players too - including our lebensraum-inspired chums of the Friedrich Naumann Foundation: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/for...ead.php?t=1735 One of Their most loathsome psyops is Their creation of pseudo-human rights organisations, ostensibly fighting to spread democracy, when Their real purpose is the rape and looting of indigenous people in developing countries and the appropriation of the natural resources of these countries. With shock therapy thrown in, as and when They deem it necessary. The whole geopolitical charade is playing out in Bolivia, without any examination from MSM.
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07-31-2009, 06:32 PM
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Fucking commies, trying to shut down free enterprize. Those Bolivians need some shock therapy.....
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08-02-2009, 03:11 AM
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Hungarian terrorists in Bolivia: Aftermath
Hungarian terrorists in Bolivia: Aftermath
Here and there one can still read in Hungarian papers about Előd Tóásó, one of the companions of Eduardo Rózsa-Flores currently awaiting trial in a Bolivian jail, but the intense interest in the alleged terrorist's past and eventual fate has subsided in the Hungarian media. However, in the last couple of days two articles appeared in Népszabadság (July 23 and July 24) about the alleged Bolivian-Hungarian terrorist Rózsa-Flores. The first was inspired by the utterances and writings of a Spanish newspaperman, Julio César Alonso, who came to know Rózsa-Flores in Tirana some fifteen years ago during "the first revolution" in Albania when Rózsa-Flores was working for the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia. Alonso claims that Rózsa-Flores was a "psychopath" who went to Bolivia to foment a civil war. His assertions support the contentions of Evo Morales's government. But since Rózsa-Flores is dead most likely we will never know what he had in mind. We do know, however, that in Hungary he was involved with extreme rightist elements. Alonso's description of Rózsa-Flores is not exactly complimentary. The story begins in Tirana, when the management of the hotel in which Rózsa-Flores was staying discreetly asked him to leave, allegedly because of a "murky affair." Apparently a battered child carrying hand grenades left his room. The next time the two men met was in Osijek, Croatia. Again a strange story emerges. Alonso was working with a television crew. At one of the check points a Croatian soldier offered to shoot a round of bullets into their car. No one would be hurt, but it would look good for the film they were working on. The soldier mentioned that he did it once before for fifty dollars at the request of "a Hungarian." Once Alonso arrived at the hotel he discovered Rózsa-Flores's car full of bullet holes. Surely, adds Alonso, Rózsa-Flores needed the bullet holes as a prop for some dramatic story. Then for two months he disappeared, only to reemerge as the commander of an "international brigade" of volunteers on the Croatian side. Rózsa-Flores invited Alonso to visit the brigade which, in the company of a Swiss war correspondent, Christian Wurtemberger, he did. Wurtemberger earlier had met some mercenary types in the Karlovac region; among them were two Spaniards, one American, one Englishman, and three Hungarians. At the meeting the two war correspondents learned that all of these volunteers were trained in Hungary under the guidance of Colonel Attila Gyla. At this point it is worth pausing momentarily to complain about the superficiality of Hungarian journalism. Admittedly the family name "Gyla" is a bit strange, but a little research reveals that this was the old spelling of Gyula, voivode of Transylvania at the end of the tenth century. The author of the article simply notes in parentheses that the name appeared in this form in the Bolivian press. Surely, he must think it was a misprint. But if he had done just a bit of research on the Internet he would have found Attila Gyla. For example in a United Nations report (1994) on Use of mercenaries as a means of violating human rights and impeding the exercise of the right of peoples to self-determination (http://tinyurl.com/l5c5l5) Perhaps it is worth quoting some of the allegations: "(Seventh allegation: For several months during 1991, Colonel Gyla Attila of the Hungarian Army was attached to the Croatian National Guard (CNG) headquarters for Slavonia, Baranja and Western Srem. He was in charge of planning and undertaking combat activities of CNG units in this area.) "As for the seventh allegation, in the second half of 1991, Mr. Gyla Attila, a Hungarian citizen, volunteered for the Croatian Army in the region of Slavonia. Nothing is known about his rank as a colonel, however. In any case, he did not act as a commanding officer of CNG units. "(Eighth allegation: At the end of 1991, the Osijek operations zone of the Croatian Army had an international brigade established by Eduardo Roses Flores, the Zagreb-based correspondent of the Catalonian paper 'La Vanguardia'. The brigade was composed of former French Legion combatants and mercenaries from the wars in the Middle East and Latin America. It often operated on its own in the region of Eastern Slavonia and committed massacres against Serbian civilians in the villages of Divos, Ernestinovo, Tenjski Antunovac and others.)" Alonso's Swiss colleague, Wurtemberger, started to snoop around in Germany to learn the source of funding for this "international brigade." He discovered that the Bolivian consul in Germany was supplying them with weaponry, and apparently they received some drug money via Turkey. Soon enough the "international brigade" grew substantially: fifty French volunteers, recruited by Jean Marie Le Pen, arrived and approximately 110 more men came from "British, German, and Hungarian fascist organizations." Alonso claims that Rózsa-Flores "in those days was an out-and-out fascist who hated Jews, Arabs, Blacks, and Communists." Alonso alleges that Rózsa Flores was responsible for the murder of Cedomir Vukcovic at the instruction of General Branimir Glavas (http://tinyurl.com/ncujc5). Further accusations by Alonso follow. Apparently Wurtermberger tried to get close to the "international brigade" in order to learn more about the organization, but he "fell in battle." However, according to the Spanish journalist the body showed signs of torture and strangulation. When another journalist, Paul Jenks, showed too much curiosity about Wurtemberger's fate he received a bullet in his neck while he was photographing Serbian fortifications. Alonso is convinced that his own life was also in danger because he was in possession of Wurtemberg's computer. However, he and another journalist, Pinto Amaral, managed to escape. Alonso was told by the one American in the group, Colton Perry, that three people were responsible for Wurtemberger's death: the English "Frenchie," the Hungarian "László," and "MT" (most likely Mario Tadic, currently in jail in Bolivia). From here on Alonso didn't have first-hand knowledge of Rózsa-Flores's activities. However, he mentions Bosnia, Angola, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Sudan as stopping places of Rózsa-Flores. It's hard to know how reliable Alonso's information is, but the stories from Croatia seem to have a ring of authenticity to them. Apparently, the Bolivian government would like to expand its investigation to Hungary. That might bring interesting results not only for the Bolivian but also for the Hungarian authorities. After all, some of the mercenaries in the Bolivian group still at large are Hungarians: Tibor Révész (founder of the Székely Légió), Gábor Dudog, Dániel Gáspár and Lajos Tamás. Perhaps with some help from Bolivia, the Hungarians could find out more about their own extremists, for example, the Arrows of the Hungarians. Hungary is a small country, and it is hard to imagine that these extremist groups weren't in touch with one another. http://esbalogh.typepad.com/hungaria...aftermath.html
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08-16-2009, 09:46 PM
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http://kuruc.info/r/6/39290/
The link has jpgs of original documents suggesting Eduardo Rozsa Flores was a KGB "informant" in 1989. Of course, as posts earlier in this thread show, Rozsa Flores did go the elite Dzerzhinsky Academy, and work as a "translator" for Carlos. However, a year or two later, Rozsa Flores was running a false flag dirty tricks "international brigade" for the Croats in the Yugoslav Civil War, committing Ustaša-style atrocities for his fascist masters such as Tudjman. So, once again, we have glimpses of the creation of an intelligence legend. It appears that, in textbook Gladio fashion, Eduardo Rozsa Flores, the National Anarchist assassin, coalface cog in a global strategy of tension, could have been painted as a KGB agent if one of his atrocities had attracted the "wrong" sort of scrutiny in the 1990s....
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#6
08-17-2009, 04:43 PM
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A "separatist" journalism grows in Bolivia
A “separatist” journalism grows in Bolivia By Wilson García Mérida August 3, 2009 [Spanish original] Translated by Scott Campbell (Datos & Análisis).- The Psychological Operations Command of the Pentagon, which operates in Venezuela through a mercenary communications firm tied to the CIA, is expanding its actions in Bolivia. Proofs of this are the recent media attacks suffered by libertarian journalist Walter Chávez, whose presence in the last meeting of Evo Morales’ cabinet caused an insipid national scandal. With the same bad intentions, this emerging separatist journalism continues making apologies for the frustrated attempts at Balkanization by mercenary Eduardo Rozsa and cynically spreading misinformation about the undeniable advances of the agrarian revolution in Pando. ------- Annually, and in a very selective manner, the U.S. government’s information service, more well known by its initials in English, BBG, “invites” journalists who in general work for large media companies, preferably editors-in-chief, columnists, TV anchors or “star” reporters, with the goal of formatting not just the style but also, above all, the subject matter, these reporters, “privileged” by the attentions of the U.S. embassy, will convey in their daily work. With rare exceptions, practically all the Bolivian journalists who today occupy “decisive” positions in the conglomerates and networks of the communications business, have been favored with at least a trip to U.S. cities, at the invitation of the BGG, from which they return convinced that the Indian who governs Bolivia is a terrorist. These are pleasure trips with stays in five-star hotels in order to participate in “seminars” and “guided visits” to important U.S. media outlets. Once they return from these trips, these colleagues put themselves at the service of fascist politicians directly connected with the media outlet owners. This form of “cooptation” which is part of the CIA’s strategy to exercise control over information systems in Latin America, has voraciously intensified and widened since the attacks that felled the twin towers in 2001. And today it is intensifying in Bolivia. Soldiers of fallacy After the Persian Gulf crisis, the war against Iraq and the attacks of September 11, the United States discovered that control of information and all of the technological apparatus inherent in it were the most efficient weapons of war. The journalist is conceived of as a key part of these invisible, yet lethal, social battles called “Psychological Operations” (PsyOps), whose objective is to prevent “the enemy” (in this case the government of Evo Morales) from having favorable public opinion for their actions. The modern warlike design of the United States opts for shooting lies, prior to bullets or together with them, producing equally devastating effects. Federico Montanari, quoted by Joám Evans, affirms that today, “It is communication itself that can be turned into a continuation of war by other means,” through a “reversible continuum of politics and war, between which war and politics meld through communication.” And this brings us psychological war as such, understood as, “The planned use of propaganda and other actions oriented to generate opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of foreign groups, be they enemies, neutral, or friends, in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives [of the U.S.].” (Daugherty) And the professionals called upon to carry out these “Psychological Operations” are not exactly psychologists, but above all journalists, reporters and publicists. Latin America is today, as the Persian Gulf, the Middle East and the Balkans were in their time, the stage where an information war is being unleashed with complete vehemence, and it is such that the Pentagon, in its fervor to relieve itself of the uncomfortable presence of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez on the world stage, has reinforced its “Psychological Operations Unit,” based in Fort Bragg, where 1,200 specialists work, charged with creating “reliable messages” to support the interventionist politics of the United States. And coating these deeds is the shiny gloss of the CIA. According to Rodrigo Guevara, the Pentagon’s PsyOps Command is charged with “packaging” together “pre-fabricated” speeches and writings for the “consumption” of the objective-population. During the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to reporting from the Times, USAID (the U.S. cooperation agency on which the BGG relies), developed and distributed tens of thousands of iPod-style audio devices (digital music players with hard drives or flash memory) which transmitted packaged civic messages, “but they did it through a contractor to assure that the ‘fingerprints’ of the Pentagon or the U.S. government weren’t on them.” Rodrigo Guevara explains that along with hiring mercenary communications firms, the Pentagon also turns to bribing journalists in occupied or besieged countries. Or they co-opt them through the pleasant trips organized by the BGG. In its war against Hugo Chávez and the Venezuelan people, the PsyOps Command of the Pentagon hired a mercenary communications firm, the Rendon Group, which is charged with “packaging” the spin that guides the Venezuelan journalists subordinated to this bellicose form of distorting information. Such methods are now in Bolivia. Anything goes against the Peruvian The informational thuggery foisted on Bolivia by the CIA and Pentagon is causing the growth of a separatist, prejudiced, and openly racist journalism which seeks to emphasize the weaknesses of President Evo Morales. In Bolivia, the famed “journalistic objectivity,” ethics, and impartiality in the handling of the facts are relics of the past. Today it is more important to be able to convince people that the enemy is in the other lane, that he is an Indian and a terrorist, even though in doing so one has to defame and misinform to the detriment of the people’s right to know the truth. Examples abound; but the recent case of Peruvian journalist Walter Chávez, who was “surprised” by the cameras entering a meeting of Evo Morales’ cabinet during an event held in the municipality of Huajchilla, which was cause for scandalous front-page headlines, plainly shows the way in which Bolivian journalism, dominated by large media companies, has turned itself into a shameful appendage of the separatist and racist strategies still underway. “Accused terrorist turns up at Evo’s cabinet,” is one of the lie-filled headlines which seek to intimidate public opinion into a fervor, encouraged by the CIA, to undercut the citizenry’s confidence in the indigenous government. Walter Chávez, as we all know in our country, is an intellectual educated at San Marcos University, Peru, and has been in Bolivia since 1992 as a political refugee after being persecuted by the Fujimori dictatorship. He has worked as a journalist for more than 10 years, founding at the beginning of the 2000s the independent weekly “El Juguete Rabioso” [The Mad Toy], which helped clear the way for Evo’s path to the presidency. In the middle of 2008, this fascism dug up Fujimori’s old smear over Chávez’s supposed links, never proven, with the MRTA and pushed for his “extradition” to Peru with the unique urge to discredit the Bolivian government. Chávez was a journalist with La Razón and other traditional media during the neoliberal governments of Paz Zamora, Sánchez de Lozada, Banzer, Tuto Quiroga and Carlos Mesa, and was considered “a good journalist” and it didn’t occur to any of them to extradite him to Peru when they were in power. But when he was seen next to Evo Morales, he turned out to be a “dangerous terrorist” who had to be expelled from the country, without considering that along with enjoying the rights as a refugee under the aegis of the UN, Walter Chávez created a home in Bolivia, has a daughter born in La Paz, and in many aspects is more of and a better Bolivian than the many politicians and local overlords who seek to Balkanize their country by hiring true terrorists such as the Hungarian-Croat mercenary Rozsa. In May of 2008, the Supreme Court made a binding ruling that Walter Chávez can not be thrown out of Bolivia in any way, let alone extradited, and that he enjoys the status of a political refugee with all the prerogatives honored by the UN. And although they achieved the dismissal of Chávez as an advisor to the president, he didn’t lose his ties with Evo Morales nor does he have cause to work in secret. As such, his “appearance” in the cabinet at Huajchilla was not secret. Walter regularly enters the Palace to meet with Evo Morales, Álvaro García Linera or Juan Ramón Quintana, coordinating a series of investigative works such as the one, for example, he is carrying out together with the Datos & Análisis Information Service in relation to the Rozsa case. Walter Chávez versus Rozsa Flores “Opposition worriedly eyes the return of Chávez to Evo’s side,” reads a clearly insidious headline, within the framework of the “psychological operation” to undermine the governability of the regime. Walter Chávez is the scapegoat that the CIA is using so that the separatist journalism can achieve its ends. They lied with similar malicious intent and perversely manipulative capability when they tried to turn the agrarian revolution in Pando into a simple electoral dirty trick, and they seek to impede the migration of landless peasants from the Andes to the Amazon, stigmatizing this historical event as a “genocide in the making.” This same separatist journalism which makes a mockery of the right of freedom of movement that helped Walter Chávez as a political refugee, is trying to turn Eduardo Rozsa Flores, the Balkanizer hired by the wealthy landowners in the east, into an innocent victim of Evo Morales’ “terrorist regime.” It was immoral the way these journalists were able scare off and discredit Spanish colleague Julio César Alonso, who arrived in the country in order to report on Rozsa’s background as a war criminal investigated by the UN. None of Alonso’s detractors bothered to check the UN files relating to the Balkans, where Rozsa is effectively accused of several murders. Here is what was reported to the Commission on Human Rights in February 1994, in a document titled “Letter dated 10 February 1994 from the Permanent Mission of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia to the United Nations Office at Geneva addressed to the Chairman of the fiftieth session of the Commission on Human Rights,” where an explicit allusion is made to Rozsa’s pillaging, with a slight error in his last name: “At the end of 1991, the Osijek operations zone of the Croatian Army had an international brigade established by Eduardo Rosses Flores [sic], the Zagreb-based correspondent of the Catalonian paper “La vanguardia.” The brigade was composed of former French Legion combatants and mercenaries from the wars in the Middle East and Latin America. It often operated on its own in the region of Eastern Slavonia and committed massacres against Serbian civilians in the villages of Divos, Ernestinovo, Tenjski Antunovac and others.”The United Nations rapporteur charged that the Croatian government protected Rozsa Flores in order to prevent his prosecution at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. According to its report to the UN responding to Yugoslavia’s charges, the Croatian government protected him with the argument that since he was a Croatian citizen, he was not a mercenary: “In respect of the eighth allegation about ’an international brigade’, in fact it concerns the volunteers. There are no data to support the claim that they committed massacres. Their commanding officer, Mr. Eduardo Jorge Roses Flores, born in 1960, is a Croatian citizen.”In spite of the weight of this historical fact which we are aware of thanks to JC Alonso, for those confused Bolivian journalists who command large audiences, our Spanish colleague was the evil one just for telling us that Rozsa was a chemically pure mercenary and well-deserving of a place in hell. The most well-perfected model of this mercenary and separatist journalism that is taking shape in Bolivia is the dealings in Santa Cruz of former socialist Cayetano Llobet, an employee of Croatian businessman Branco Marinkovic, who a few days ago bought all the stocks of the newspaper El Día, whose frivolity-filled pages are now covered with the packaged powder of the Pentagon’s PsyOps Command. And La Razón is not far behind. Nor are the large television stations whose owners are those eastern landowners who believe that draining the land and distributing it to the country’s dispossessed is a “terrorist act.” The basic strategy of the genuine terrorist consists of accusing his victims of being terrorists. It was a basic scheme during the dark days of Plan Cóndor. And when journalism lends itself to this ignoble game, it means that something is faltering in the consciences of those colleagues who should be expecting, anxiously, the next BGG invitation to travel to the U.S. Wilson Garcia Merida is an independent journalist in Cochabamba, Bolivia, Director of the Servicio Informativo Datos & Analisis. His email is llactacracia@yahoo.com. http://angrywhitekid.blogs.com/weblo...n-bolivia.html
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08-18-2009, 11:47 AM
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Monday, August 17, 2009
"Unclear" terrorism targets campesino leader  The wife of national campesino leader Fidel Sucro, Arminda Colque, was severely injured by a letter bomb addressed to her husband. Six others were injured by the blast as well as from a second letter bomb. Sucro is head of the umbrella social movements organization Conalcam.The Associated Press in its awefulness stated, "It was unclear what may have motivated the Wednesday attacks". It might have been clearer if they had maybe listened to what was said of the attack by those targeted. Fidel Sucro stated, "The attacks are the begining of a dirty war against the process of change. It is a dirty war with the intention of terrorizing the government and and social movements in the begining of the campaign for the general elections in December." From the Latin American Herald Tribune: The attack was staged by “a new terrorism network” linked to Bolivian-born Croatian citizen Eduardo Rosza Flores, who was killed in an April 16 police operation, Sen. Felix Rojas said.The same neonazi terrorists are suspected in the brutal murder of Evo Morales' aunt. If you are wondering why the rightwing opposition would resort to terrorism in order to compete in general elections the consevative Bolivian intellectual Jorge Lazarte might give a good anwser. Lazarte, a prominent neoliberal intellectuals and now discredited as a compulsive liar, recently complained about the hopelessly fragmented opposition- doomed in the December elections. He stated bluntly that they have no alternative political or social project for the country. But they still have money and violent friends. http://casa-del-duderino.blogspot.co...campesino.html
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08-18-2009, 05:23 PM
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Eduardo Rozsa Flores is the archetypal Gladio creation.
Out of his own mouth, it's clear that Rozsa Flores is a National Anarchist (ie an advocate of Neo-Nazi mysticism with a Miguel Serrano Black Sun obsession) who wanted to help lead a violent secession of the white, European, landowning, Project Paperclip, ruling elites of Santa Cruz away from the nation state of Bolivia. However, his MO is not as simple as killing the supposed "bad guys" - who in this case would be indigenous Aymara and Quechua leaders, and supporters of the government of President Evo Morales. Rather his Gladio MO is to perpetrate acts of terror that strike fear into the hearts and minds of ordinary people. If those acts of terror can be blamed on the "bad guys" that's a valuable, but not essential, bonus. Here's a classic historical example of the Gladio MO: In Italy, the 1980 Bologna train station bombing killed 85 and wounded more than 200. Initially, the authorities blamed the left-wing, Soviet-linked, Red Brigades. In fact, the massacre was perpetrated by Gladio cutouts, the Neofascist NAR (Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari). And where did the NAR receive their explosives from? A Gladio arsenal. The Gladio MO is a strategy of terror and tension - often conducted directly against the civilian population. Back to Eduardo Rozsa Flores. His official biography (intelligence legend) is so tangled that he is (at least superficially) plausibly deniable by every intelligence agency in the world. If only because he has a record of working for so many of them - oftentimes as a low-level informant. A classic method for creating faux tracks in the spooky snow..... On his return to Bolivia to fight for white-dominated secession, Rozsa Flores was implicated in an attempt to murder the right-wing Archbishop of Santa Cruz. This was almost certainly part of a false flag strategy of tension attempt to foment unrest against the government of Evo Morales. After all, the murder of a leading Man of God would suggest that Morales' police could not protect anyone. Presumably part of the MO would have been to blame the murder, if it had succeeded, on indigenous elements. Rozsa Flores' Croatian "International Brigade" were notorious for precisely this type of atrocity in the Yugoslav Civil War: they would commit carnage against their own side, and then plant evidence that the crimes had been carried out by Serbs. This is also presumably a major reason why the fascist war criminal Franjo Tudman made the Bolivian-born Rozsa Flores a Croatian citizen, despite the fact that Rozsa Flores did not possess even a pinprick of Croatian blood. In fact, Eduardo Rozsa Flores was a true child of Paperclip, of the Nazi ratlines, of the Nazi International. Of Gladio. Morales' secret service executed this Gladio assassin and his band of dogs of war and agent provocateurs. In doing so, they put the American secret service agents charged with protecting the life of John F Kennedy to eternal shame.
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01-24-2010, 04:12 AM
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Just a brief reply Ruben.
According to Flores from Hungarian media from his last interview: Quote:
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I presume this is the photo you are referring to:  Perhaps it is genuine. Perhaps not. I find the over exposure on the right a bit odd. Especially if digital. Also, I see nothing particularly sinister about it and don't see why you would jump to the conclusion that because he is a photo with Andrade that EFR is a Morales stooge. It more likely is Andrade checking up on EFR and co to see what they are doing in town. Ruben said: Quote:
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01-24-2010, 06:41 AM
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Magda:
- Yeah Magda. Andrade only went to see what Rosza was doing in the town, and he stay to drink some beer an talk about football and climate. The photograpy is REAL and is not the only one. At the begining, governmet try to say that was a fake, UNTIL others come to light, that where showed to the media. Then government change his version (again): now says that was an "undercover" work from Andrade. But that gets things more complicated: The photograps were taked many time before the murders, and so government doesen't take any action when Rosza supposely detonate explosive devices and "try to kill the president" ¿?... That means too that they have many,many oportunities to capture them ALIVE and with not a scratch ("terrorists" walk freely and unarmed in the streets and evrywhere), so they can talk about the people who support them. Any policeman knows that to capture terrorists ALIVE is a high priority, coz give the opportunity to COMPLETLY DEARTICULATE the organization by knowing the conspirators. If they are killed, secret die with them and the others can continue with conspiracy. The one at the right of Rosza is called "el viejo" and was the "star" eyewitness of government, until was discovered that he has lied in many of his accusations (as I remember, he try to link an oppositor with a meeting with Rosza, but oppositor was not in the country that date). After that shame, "el viejo" dissapeared under protection of government. - Yeah. Evrybody think in the begining that it was true that Rosza came to Santa Cruz to defend the city from the agressions of Morales militia and Morale's UTARC, we too see that interview just after his death. But latter, was discovered that interview was part of original plan. Supposely, when he gather all information regarding to Morales oppositors and conspiracy (organized by himself), he has to be "captured" and begin to accuse everybody (oppositors) in the justice court, making a big media Show. Then, that interview was planned to come to light, so there will be no doubt of his intentions. Now we know a little more to be shure that was part of the manipulation. - WRONG. Santa Cruz ellite never wanted to secede (that was a stupid blame selled by Morales to international media, that usually doesen't reason out the news they get. Any kid looking Bolivia's map knows why). The ellite tryed to shut any voice speaking of secesion. Simply because is bad for business. They depend of Pacific Ocean ports for their exports, and all roads to reach them are thru Aimaran or Quechua territory controlled by Morales. No way to avoid it. - As I said, Rosza's family are quiet and peaceful family. Not matter what you have read or movie you have see, if you don't cause troubles to a dictator, you can live even in regimes as the Pinochet ones. In fact, almost all leftist chileans who refuse to get involved in the fight against terrible regime of Pinochet, lived peaceful lifes there too. - LOL Magda, some day you have to come to Bolivia to see how marchs are managed. Trucks with food, coca and water are permanently supporting the marchers. Evrywhere they go, they have shelters. And (specially Morale's marchers) THEY ARE PAYED (Bs. 50 daly, plus food and drinks). I know because I had fiends marching too, that went to La Paz to seize the congress. Multiply that for THOUSANDS DALY and you will see the kind of money we are talking about (they even have enough money to support almost TWO MONTHs of NATIONAL roads blockage). No rich individuals or associations in Bolivia can have that kind of money. NGOs...??..Chavez..??...Drug traffikking...??. .. who knows. Is one of the most guarded secrets of Morales until now. - No dead policeman. A policeman LEAKED the information to the media about Rosza's computer content. That information was showed in TV. Journalist Carlos Valverde has a copy of it and he publically challenged the government to deny the authenticity of it. Government didn't until today. I allready post it the link to Carlos Valverde, but I don't have the date that information was released. His video files are there by date.
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